Should you use a speedlight’s wide-angle panel inside a small softbox?

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Many speedlights have a pull-out wide-angle panel meant to widen beam coverage. When a flash is used inside a portable or small softbox, does using that panel help reduce the center hotspot and improve even illumination across the front diffusion panel? Or does it mostly just waste power? I'm looking for practical experience on whether it makes a noticeable difference, and when it’s worth using.

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Short answer:

Yes, totally worth it, unless you want your softbox light to have a hot-spot and falloff.

Details:

Okay, so I was inspired to actually test this out, and with Stan's suggestion, to also add a Sto-Fen push-on diffuser to the mix as well. (Slight off-topic note: just as the wide-angle panel isn't really a light softener by itself, push-on diffusers like the Sto-Fen are not actually meant as diffusers on their own. Instead, they give a "bare bulb" effect. See this Q&A for more.)

The Setup

Westcott Rapid Box 10"×24" Strip with Cheetah Light V850 (radio trigger hotshoe flash). I dialed the flash power back to ¹⁄₁₂₈th, and selected a relatively narrow aperture and low ISO. First I tried the flash zoomed in at its 105mm setting, as a control. Then, zoomed out to 24mm. Next, at 24mm with the wide-angle panel, and finally with the push-on diffuser.

The Results

softbox plus wide panel test

Frankly, I was surprised by how much of a difference it makes. I knew the 105mm setting would cause a hotspot, but 24mm isn't really much better. So, the take-away is: use the wide angle panel or a push-on diffuser.

It's a little hard to judge between the last two. The push-on diffuser gives a softer overall pattern, but the hot spot that does exist seems more concentrated in the center. On the other hand, that spot doesn't reveal shadows of the internal structure, which the one with the wide panel does. So I repeated the last part of test with the same flash power but the aperture down another stop. And I added a shot with the wide panel down and the push-on diffuser:

test of wide panel vs. push-on

Again, mostly inconclusive. The doubled-up last shot is darker, but on careful inspection, I don't think the falloff is any less; I think we're just wasting light at this point.

Also note that the apparent darker shadows in the center of the hotspot with the wide-panel test are only relatively darker — that's still brighter than the top and bottom of the box. And that center spot with the push-on diffuser is still brighter than the brightest parts of the hot spot from the panel. This is probably getting to the point where the construction of your particular softbox matters most of all, followed slightly by the light pattern of your particular flash and the construction of the wide panel or push-on diffuser.

Conclusion

So again, the take-away is: use the panel or a push-on diffuser for more even light. Doing both together doesn't seem to be much use.

Oh, and what's the weird black shape at the bottom? The back reflective fabric wasn't quite straight, and that's the shadow. I'll be a little more careful about that where it matters. If the flash power is higher, that all blows out and the whole rectangle is apparently white.

See also

I did a similar test with the 26" Octa, including with and without Westcott's deflector plate. Again, the conclusion is that a push-on diffuser is an important addition.

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Yes—usually. The wide-angle panel spreads the flash beam more evenly inside the softbox, which helps reduce a bright center hotspot and gives more even illumination across the front panel. This is most useful when the flash head alone does not fully cover the softbox interior.

Trade-off: you generally lose some efficiency/power, because more light is scattered and may bounce off the softbox walls instead of going straight forward. If the flash already fills the softbox well, the improvement may be smaller, and the main effect is slightly flatter, more even light.

In practice:

  • use it if you want smoother, more even output and less hotspot/falloff
  • skip it if you prefer a bit more punch/sparkle or need maximum output
  • the effect depends on softbox size and how far the flash sits from the diffusion panel

So it’s not superstition: it can make a real difference, especially in small or strip softboxes where beam coverage is uneven.

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