Should I use a print shop that only asks for sRGB and does not provide an ICC profile?

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A print shop told me they do not provide ICC printer profiles for soft proofing and instead said I should simply convert my image to sRGB before uploading. My monitor is calibrated, and I understand that soft proofing is normally used to preview how a specific printer/paper combination will reproduce color. If the lab only wants sRGB files, can I still expect accurate prints, or is this a sign I should choose a different print shop?

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TLDR: Choose a print shop that provides ICC profiles.

Soft proofing is an important step for optimal results. If a shop doesn't share its profiles there are two reasons that come to my mind: lack of knowledge (very bad), or different printer types for the same printing product, meaning multiple orders could give different results even with the same picture.

Consider that every piece in the chain from lens to print deals differently with colors. This is defined by engineering and limited in accuracy by technology (e.g., types of colors a printer uses), production tolerances and physics. Therefore color profiles exist for cameras, displays and printers. This allows you to see the limits of reproduction in a given medium, which is usually done by soft-proofing. A print shops that apparently skimps on color management breaks this chain. If a photographer wants to publish his art as he envisioned it and not just snapshots, it's advisable to look for print shops that provide ICC profiles.


What to do if the print shop requests files in a specific color space?

If you decide to go with this shop, adhere to the selection.
A known error is to send pictures with a CMYK color space such as offset printers use, while most shops expect some form of RGB color space. Often a shop will accept multiple formats (sRGB, Adobe RGB, ProPhoto RGB). sRGB is the smallest of the color spaces listed, thus its coverage of the color space the printer is capable of is the smallest. On the other hand, an sRGB jpeg with 8 bits per color channel will have finer color steps than a ProPhoto RGB with 8 bits per color channel.

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Converting your file to sRGB is common and may be the lab’s required input format, but it is not a substitute for a printer/paper ICC profile. sRGB only defines the color space of the file you send; it does not tell you how that specific lab’s printer and paper will reproduce those colors.

Without the lab’s ICC profile, you cannot soft proof accurately, so you lose the ability to preview out-of-gamut colors, tonal shifts, and paper-specific limitations. That means print results are less predictable.

Based on the community answers, the safest conclusion is: choose a print shop that provides ICC profiles if you want the best control and repeatability. A lab that refuses to provide profiles may either not manage color well or may use varying printers/papers for the same product, which makes consistent results harder.

If you still use that shop, export in sRGB as requested, but understand that you are relying on their workflow rather than verifying it yourself.

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