Will a Canon 430EX II work well in a 24" Lastolite Ezybox with YN-622C triggers?

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I’m using a Canon T3i with Yongnuo YN-622C triggers and want to buy a Canon 430EX II plus a Lastolite Ezybox 24x24" softbox. I have a few concerns:

  • Will the added height of the flash and YN-622C make it hard to aim the flash properly into the softbox opening?
  • Is a 430EX II powerful enough for a 24" softbox, or will output be too limited for practical use?
  • I also need a compact light stand for travel. Would a small stand in the Manfrotto 1051/1052 size range be stable enough for a speedlight, trigger, and this softbox outdoors in light wind?

Are there any other important setup issues I should keep in mind?

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1) Even if it doesn't fit directly, you could use a hotshoe cable to hook up to it to fix the mount position problem. They also have a shot with a pocket-wizard working with a 580EXII, so I don't think that it would be a problem even directly mounted.

2) The 430EX is certainly less powerful than the 600EX or 580EXII. I've not personally tried it with a softbox of that size, but I know the next 320EX is nowhere even approaching powerful enough for that size softbox unless it is pretty dim. The amount of light you need is always going to be a factor. Your best bet when researching this is to look at the number of stops of light that you lose (should be available from the softbox manufacturer) and compare it with the output power of the flash to see if it is enough for your situation.

UPDATE: It seems that it is difficult to find information on the stops of loss that you get when using any of the Ezybox soft-boxes. The best I could find was a claim on a forum that said that Ezybox claims that they only lose half an EV, which is pretty darn good if true.

3) I have a Manfrotto Nano stand and it is pretty good. The 1052 is going to be even more sturdy. The one thing you will need to do with a softbox in light wind though is to use sand bags. Light stands are not tripods, they spread out quick at the bottom and extend up a long way. They need to be weighted down when they have a big sail on top of them.

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The trigger/flash height may or may not be an issue, but it’s usually workable. If direct mounting doesn’t position the flash well, a hotshoe extension cable can solve the alignment problem.

On power: a 430EX II is less powerful than larger Canon speedlights, so whether it’s enough depends on how much light you need and how much output the softbox costs you. A 24" softbox will reduce flash output, so check the softbox’s stated light loss and compare that with the flash’s power. In dimmer situations, a 430EX II may be fine; for brighter conditions or greater working distances, it may be limiting.

There wasn’t a solid community answer on the specific Manfrotto stand models, but outdoors with any softbox, even light wind can affect stability. In general, smaller travel stands are less stable than larger ones, so use caution outside.

Main takeaway: the setup is feasible, the flash position can be fixed if needed, and the biggest question is whether the 430EX II provides enough power for your intended shooting conditions.

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