Why does my Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 only fire when focused during manual focusing?

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I’m using a Canon EOS 600D/T3i with an EF-S 18-135mm and an EF 50mm f/1.8. With the 18-135, I can deliberately leave the image out of focus and still take the shot. But with the 50mm f/1.8, if the image is out of focus the lens seems to try to autofocus before the shutter will fire. I can hear and feel the focus motor, but turning the focus ring doesn’t move the motor-driven focus system. Autofocus works normally.

Is this normal behavior for the EF 50mm f/1.8, or does it indicate a fault?

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In order to fire the shutter when any of the pre-STM variants of the EF 50mm f/1.8 is out of focus, the switch on the lens must be set to M (manual) rather than AF (auto focus). Attempting to manually focus those lenses with AF engaged can damage the focusing motor and mechanism. If the motor is still trying to engage when the lens is set to M it needs to be serviced.

There are two variants of the Canon 18-135 lens. The older EF 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS behaves the same as the 50mm f/1.8 series with regard to focus. You should not attempt to manually focus the lens when the switch is set to AF. For the newer EF 18-135mm f/2.5-5.6 IS STM, Full Time Manual focusing (manual focusing when the switch is set to AF) is available, but only after AF completes in One Shot mode with the shutter release remaining half-pressed. I was under the impression this only worked with the newer T4i and newer bodies, but based on your experience described in your question the T3i is compatible with this feature as well.

This is a very late edit, but a recent experience I had might suggest a possibility for anyone else with this problem:

If the lens has been opened up (to be internally cleaned, for instance) it's extremely easy to misalign the external AF/MF switch with the actual switch underneath it on the lens' PC board when putting it back together. If this occurs, the outer switch can break the plastic tab off the actual switch and then moving the external AF/MF switch does nothing. Whichever position the actual switch is in (it can be moved with a narrow probe when the lens is disassembled) is what the lens is set to regardless of the position of the external switch.

I've experienced this with the EF 85mm f/1.8, but a number of Canon's other lower priced non-L primes are also made in the same way. My solution is to leave the internal switch set to 'AF'. Since I usually have back-button AF set up and half-pressing the shutter button only activates metering without activating AF, I need to only release the 'AF-ON' button to be able to manually focus the EF 85mm f/1.8 with ring-type USM.

Unfortunately, the EF 50mm f/1.8 does not have ring-type USM and the manual focus ring should not be moved when the switch is set to 'AF'. I don't know if the external/internal switches are connected the same way with the EF 50mm f/1.8, but the EF 50mm f/1.4 is constructed the same way the EF 85mm f/1.8 is (as well as the EF 100mm f/2, among others).

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This is normal for the older, pre-STM Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 lenses: to shoot at any focus distance, the lens must be switched to M on the lens. If it’s left on AF, the camera/lens will still try to drive autofocus, and manually turning the focus ring on those versions is not intended and can damage the focus motor/mechanism.

Your 18-135 may differ depending on version. The older EF-S 18-135mm behaves like the 50mm and should not be manually focused while set to AF. The newer 18-135mm STM supports full-time manual focus, but only under specific conditions after autofocus completes.

So:

  • Set the 50mm f/1.8 switch to M before manual focusing.
  • Don’t manually focus pre-STM Canon lenses while they are set to AF.
  • If the 50mm still tries to drive the focus motor even when the switch is on M, that suggests a fault and the lens should be serviced.

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