Why does my Canon 450D show 10" at f/3.5 in Program mode, and why can’t I change the shutter speed directly?

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On a Canon EOS 450D/XSi in P (Program) mode, half-pressing the shutter now shows values like 10" F3.5 instead of something like 1/90 F5.6. Turning the main dial does not seem to change the shutter speed much, and it stays around a few seconds. ISO was 100 when this started and was later changed to 400, but the behavior remained. What does 10" mean, and how can shutter speed be changed in Program mode?

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I will try to collect all the pieces from all comments and the question.

Note: Most information about this can be found in the camera's manual, which I tried to link accordingly. This is a rough explanation; some things are described in great detail in the manual, other things can be found on photo.stackexchange.


Am I not able to pick the shutter speed freely in P mode?

No, you are not. p. 56 in the manual offers the following information about P mode:

To obtain a good exposure of the subject, the camera sets the exposure (shutter speed and aperture) automatically.

In P mode, you can either change the exposure compensation (see below), the ISO, and/or the relation between shutter speed and aperture. So if you want to have a fixed ISO of 800, but switch from f/4 and 1/250" to something with a greater depth of field and/or more motion blur, give the main dial a push. 6 clicks and it should become ISO 800, f/8 and 1/60", which offers the same exposure value.


How do I change the shutter speed?

To set the shutter speed, use either Shutter-priority (Tv) mode (only setting the shutter speed) or Manual (M) mode (setting both aperture and shutter speed). Bulb (B) mode would also work, but you would have to hold the button as long as you want the exposure to be - not useful for anything below 1", and usually not really useful without a timer-controller remote shutter control.


Is metering and EV Scale related?

Yes, it is. The EV indicator (p. 18 for the LCD representation, p. 19 for the viewfinder one - and p. 78 for general information.)

The EV indicator shows either your dialed-in exposure compensation (in all modes except M and B) or the result of the camera's metering (in M mode).

Think of the EV indicator as temperature readout display / adjustment knob, while the metering is the thermostat itself. You can see how hot (light) it is via the display or you can adjust the temperature (exposure compensation) via the display, while the thermostat (metering) is then working with your values and trying to get the radiators (aperture, shutter, sensor) to achieve the desired values.

Therefore, when you set exposure compensation to 0, the camera will try a "neutral" approach: a grey card should come out perfectly grey. If your shots are overexposed (because most of the subject is black), you can dial in a negative exposure compensation (left side of the scale), while for underexposure (because much of your subject is white) needs a positive compensation (right side of the scale).

In M mode, you have to do your own exposure - and the EV indicator helps you at that: it shows you how the camera believes your shot will be exposed. This is not as good information as a histogram (or, even better: a waveform), but it offers a bit of orientation.


Should shutter speed increase like this because of the change to spot metering?

Metering (p. 77), on the other hand, defines how the camera evaluates the frame. Spot metering, for example, will just evaluate the middle of the frame and nothing else. So if the middle of your frame is pitch black, but the surrounding area is white, then your exposure will be quite bright. As a rule of thumb, spot metering is best left alone unless you really know what you do.

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10" means a 10-second shutter speed. So the camera is metering the scene as very dark and is choosing a long exposure plus a wide aperture (f/3.5) to get a normal exposure.

In P mode on the 450D/XSi, you do not set shutter speed directly. The camera automatically chooses both shutter speed and aperture. You can only influence exposure by changing ISO, using exposure compensation, or shifting the program line to a different shutter/aperture combination.

If the shutter speed stays very long, the scene is likely too dim for ISO 100–400, especially if the lens is already at its widest aperture. To get a faster shutter speed, you need more light, a higher ISO, or a different exposure mode such as Tv (shutter priority) or M.

So nothing is necessarily broken: in P mode, the camera is behaving as designed.

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