Why do my prints look much darker and higher-contrast after profiling with a ColorMunki?

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I’m using a ColorMunki to make printer profiles. Color looks good, but prints come out with much stronger contrast than expected, especially in the shadows, which block up and look too dark.

Setup:

  • Printer: Epson R2880
  • Photoshop CS5
  • Paper: Moab Lasal Lustre

My workflow is to calibrate/profile the display first, then create a print profile. In Photoshop I soft-proof using View > Proof Setup > Custom with my profile and Perceptual rendering, and the preview looks acceptable. But the actual print has very dark shadow areas and much more contrast.

Is this likely a profiling problem, or is it a characteristic of this paper?

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I think the issue is simply the Lasal Luster paper. In my experience, Lasal is a very contrasty paper (I have used both Moab's ICC profiles as well as my own created with DataColor Spyder Print). It is actually one of the things I love about it...it has some extremely DEEP blacks, and for certain types of prints, I think that is ideal. You lose detail in those blacks, and sometimes they become almost flat...but that is really the nature of the paper. It is definitely not the right paper for everything, and if you do not enjoy the deep contrast, you might want to look to another paper.

Moab Colorado Fiber Satin is another nice luster paper that does not have the same deep contrast level as Lasal, yet still has much of its appeal. Like most other Moab papers, it is exquisite in structure and surface, but actually brings out soft detail in the shadows...possibly to the degree where it is rather low in contrast relative to other types of paper.

In an interesting quirk of paper types, I've discovered that the Lasal Photo Matte paper from Moab actually has a very wide dynamic range. Unlike its luster counterpart, Lasal Matte does not block up the blacks...it actually renders detail within them quite well. You lose some contrast, so prints don't pop quite as much as with the luster, but they still have more pop than many other types of paper, and definitely have a greater degree of fine detail (including color detail) in the deep shadows that only a few other papers manage to achieve. You lose the luster, which can be a deal breaker for some, but the vibrance and microcontrast of Moab Lasal Matte may be worth a switch...prints still retain an extremely lifelike depth.

It should be noted that Lasal, both the matte and luster varieties, are papers with a fairly considerable amount of OBAs in them. The OBAs are partly responsible for the rich, vibrant color, but there are some drawbacks to using any paper with an OBA. For one, it actually can become more difficult to calibrate, as OBAs fluoresce under UV light...something colorimiters and spectrophotometers don't usually emit. That might actually be the reason why profiles for Lasal Luster (which has a higher OBA content than matte) tend to block up the blacks. Additionally, papers with OBAs don't last nearly as long as pure natural fiber papers. OBAs by nature cause fading, given the way they fluoresce, so print longevity will suffer. You might expect half the lifetime or less out of a print on OBA paper, vs. a nice bright white bleached natural fiber paper.

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Based on the replies, this is most likely a paper characteristic rather than a ColorMunki failure. Moab Lasal Lustre is known for very deep blacks and a punchy, high-contrast look. That can make shadow detail appear blocked up or flatter than expected, even when color is otherwise accurate.

If your soft proof looks reasonable but the print is still very contrasty, the paper itself is a strong suspect. Some papers simply have a darker black point and more dramatic contrast, which is great for some images but not all.

So the practical fix may be to choose a different paper if you want gentler shadows and more open dark tones. A less contrasty luster paper, such as Moab Colorado Fiber Satin, was suggested as an alternative that keeps a similar feel without the same extreme black depth.

In short: your profile may be working fine; Lasal Lustre may just be too contrasty for the images you’re printing.

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