Which flashes work on a Canon EOS 4000D hot shoe without a center pin?

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I need a compatible flash for a Canon EOS 4000D, which uses a Canon hot shoe without the standard center sync contact. Which speedlites or triggers are known to work, and are third-party flashes safe to buy for this camera?

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Canon

Canon's own EX speedlights should all be compatible, if not fully compatible. The official word from Canon on their brochures and websites for the bodies without the sync contact is:

Speedlites other than the EX-series or non-Canon flash units cannot be used. Not all functions of the Canon EX-series flashes are supported.

Godox

In April/May 2019, Godox released firmware updates for compatibility with the T7 (aka 2000D, 1500D) and T100 (aka 3000D, 4000D) for their following units:

  • TT350-C mini speedlight
  • V350-C li-on mini speedlight
  • TT685-C speedlight
  • V860 II-C li-on speedlight
  • X1T-C transmitter
  • XPro-C transmitter

The SL3/250D, appears to remain problematic. The X1T and XPro transmitters have both received firmware updates for compatibility with it, but none of the speedlights have. There are, however, reports that putting a speedlight on top of a mounted X1T or X2T transmitter works.

Yongnuo

Yongnuo has issued similar compatibility updates for:

  • YN-565C III
  • YN-586C III
  • YN-685C

Nissin, Sigma, Metz

Nissin's compatibility chart lists all their gear as fully compatible with the T7.

Sigma's and Metz's tables haven't (yet) been updated to include the T7/T100.

General guidelines

I would also say that (obviously) single-pin/Manual-only transmitters/flashes like the Amazon Basics/Neewer TT560, Yongnuo YN-560 series, Yongnuo RF-60x triggers, LumoPro LP180, etc. won't work with a hotshoe without the sync contact.

Flashes with a built-in radio trigger, however, probably can be synced off-camera, if the transmitter can do TTL and is compatible with the new hotshoe. And any built-in optical triggering will still work.

Early testers in this dpreview thread mention incompatibility with Simpex 522, Nissin Di622, Yongnuo YN685 and RF-603, Neewer NW-670, and Godox gear. So, if you are looking at firmware-updateable 3rd-party TTL gear, I would look to see if a firmware update has been issued specifically for this issue. If not, I'd assume incompatibility unless you can find someone who reports differently.

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Canon EX-series Speedlites are the safest choice. Canon’s guidance for these entry-level bodies is that non-EX Canon flashes and many non-Canon flashes cannot be used, and not all EX functions may be supported.

Community reports confirm that Canon EX units such as the 580EX II and 430EX III-RT work on similar cameras with the same hot shoe design, so older EX flashes can still be compatible.

Some Godox Canon-mount models were updated for compatibility via firmware, including the TT350-C, V350-C, TT685-C, V860 II-C, X1T-C, and XPro-C. Compatibility may depend on having the correct firmware installed, and support can vary by camera model.

Optical/radio Canon triggers that communicate through Canon’s system may also work, such as the ST-E2, and likely RT-system triggers with RT-capable flashes.

Bottom line: buy Canon EX-series first if you want the lowest risk. If choosing Godox or another third-party brand, verify exact camera compatibility and firmware support before purchasing.

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