How should I scan chromogenic black-and-white film like Ilford XP2 Super?

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I’m scanning Ilford XP2 Super negatives with an HP ScanJet G4050 using Image Capture on macOS. When I scan them as color negatives, I get odd color casts. When I switch to black-and-white/greyscale negative mode, the color cast disappears, but the scans look flatter and I see more banding.

Is this a known issue with chromogenic black-and-white film? What are the best practices for scanning it so I get better tonal depth and minimize post-processing?

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It looks like your scanner is scanning with a limited spectrum when you ask to scan BW begative images, hence the flattening when luminance details come from blue and green channels, and little from red channel. When I take the red channel from the color scan you published, I get (with few adjustements with 'curves') a very close result as your BW scans, hence I strongly believe your scan takes only the red spectrum.

In order to get the real result with this model of scanner, I recommend you to scan in color, then to flatten in BW your image. Unless your want to rewrite your scanner drivers (which can be fun), or unless you can tune such parameter as "the spectrum used for BW scan". You can play with color filter, channels specific adjustments to optimize your result, the same way photographers were using orange and red filters with BW films at the shooting moment to soften and lighten skin tones for instance.

I worked a lot with XP2, and I always got the best results from scanning in color. even though my scanner was working with full spectrum in BW mode.

Today, when I want to do BW images, I shoot in color (digital) and then work the color channels later, this gives me maximum flexibility and creativity.

Good luck

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Yes—chromogenic B&W film can scan better in color mode than in a scanner’s B&W negative mode. XP2 is a chromogenic film, so the scanner/software may handle it more like color negative film, while its greyscale mode may use a more limited channel response and produce flatter tonality or more visible banding.

Best practice from the answers: scan the film as a color negative, then convert to black and white afterward. That lets you use all color channels and usually preserves more tonal information. You can then fine-tune the conversion with channel mixing or curves for a better monochrome result than the scanner’s automatic B&W mode.

If your current software is giving poor results, try dedicated scanning software such as VueScan, which is commonly recommended for negative scanning and may give you better control than basic scanner utilities.

So, in short:

  • scan XP2 in color
  • convert to B&W in post
  • adjust channels/curves as needed
  • consider dedicated scanning software if the stock driver is limiting results

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