How can I photograph butterflies close-up with a Nikon P900 without getting too close?
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I use a Nikon Coolpix P900 mostly for birds, but I’d also like to take butterfly photos that look more macro-like. The problem is that at the long end of the zoom, the camera only focuses from about 5 m to infinity. At the wide end it can focus very close, but moving in that close scares butterflies away.
I tried a +1 close-up diopter lens, which helps somewhat, but it still requires me to be closer than I’d like. I was hoping to find a weaker close-up filter such as +0.5 or +0.25 in 67mm so I could work from farther away. I also notice autofocus seems slightly off when the close-up lens is attached, focusing a bit behind the subject.
Are weaker diopters available, and is there a practical way to improve focus and working distance with a superzoom like the P900?
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Regular (+1, +2, +3, +4, +5 and +10) diopters are available from low to reasonable price.
Special (+1/8, +1/4, +1/2, +3/4) diopters are available for much larger diameter lenses (so you'll need to step down) at prices ranging from a few hundred to twice that much, so that's probably cost prohibitive.
Schneider Kreuznach (B+W) makes high quality products, but the diopter you want is special order and for larger lenses used for professional cinematography.
A webpage with photos demonstrating the magnification effect of various regular diopters is available here: "Using Diopters - Close-Up Lenses".
Your difficulty is described in the DPReview Forum thread: "Help with close up zoom on Nikon Coolpix P900!" where Stephen Ingraham explains:
"As noted in other responses, the further you zoom in, the further you have to be from your subject for the camera to focus.
At full zoom (2000mm equivalent), you have to be 16.5 feet from the flower for the camera to focus.
At half zoom (1000mm) you have to be about 9 feet from your flower.
At 500-600mm equivalent (1/4 zoom) you have to be about 6 feet from your flower.
If you are closer, the focus will try ... but you will get a red square where the focus square is in the finder. That means the camera has not focused.
If you are the correct distance, or further, you will get a green focus square.
If you zoom while looking at the finder or the LCD, you can see were it goes out of focus when zooming in. Past that point it will not focus no matter what you do.
If you want to do close-ups, set the camera in Close Up Mode in the Scene modes ... it will zoom to the widest angle. That is where you can get closest to your subject. As you zoom in, you will see that the zoom indicator at the top of the viewfinder is green unit about 1/5 zoom, then it goes clear again.".
I think you are going to have to be satisfied with +1 diopter, use of the close focusing mode, reduced zoom, and some cropping; unless it's worth over a few hundred dollars to get these photos.
Be prepared to scare off a few bugs if you have to get the camera close and want to move around a lot. Placing the camera up close to a prime patch of flowers where butterflies land and triggering automatically (with a seperate trigger) in your backyard (over a period of hours or days) may be the only way to do it on the cheap.
Surprisingly bees are quite friendly and allow you to get closeups, if you'd be willing to switch from butterflies. This bee photo was taken from about 6" away, handheld.
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A weaker close-up lens may exist, but +0.5 and especially +0.25 diopters are uncommon in standard photo sizes and are often special-order cine/large-diameter accessories, so they tend to be impractical and expensive.
In general, your P900 is running into a normal superzoom limitation: the more you zoom, the longer the minimum focus distance becomes. A close-up attachment is the practical workaround, but it can introduce optical aberrations and can confuse autofocus slightly. If AF is consistently focusing too deep, manual focus or careful AF adjustment/verification is often the best approach.
Extension tubes are another close-focus method for interchangeable-lens cameras, but they are not a realistic solution for a fixed-lens camera like the P900.
So the realistic options are:
- use a standard close-up diopter and refine focusing manually if needed
- accept some image-quality/focus tradeoffs from the attachment
- experiment with different zoom positions rather than only the extreme tele end
In short: yes, weaker diopters can exist, but for your camera the most practical solution is still a normal close-up lens plus careful focusing.
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