Can a thin camera body use a very large front lens element?

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I’m wondering about the physical limits of lens size versus camera depth. If a camera body is very thin, can it still have a large front lens element without the lens extending when powered on?

I understand that a larger aperture can gather more light, but it seems like larger glass might also require more distance between the lens and the film/sensor plane. Is there a practical or optical limit to how large the front element can be relative to how thin the camera is?

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As a rough "rule of thumb," the lens diameter can be up to twice the measurement from the lens to the film plane.

This "simplistic answer" is based on the theoretical limit of the "speed" of a "normal" photographic lens to be less than ƒ/0.5 (that is, denominator must be at least 0.5).

A more detailed and precise answer would involve discussion of the materials involved and their geometry/configuration.

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Yes—up to a point. A thin camera can have a large front lens element, and real cameras have existed with unusually large glass on relatively compact bodies.

The key issue is not just the front element size, but the relationship between aperture and focal length. Lens brightness is described by the f-number: aperture diameter ≈ focal length ÷ f-number. So for a given focal length, making the lens faster requires a larger entrance pupil.

There is a practical optical limit: for conventional refractive lenses, extremely large apertures become very difficult, and a rough rule of thumb is that photographic lenses don’t get much faster than about f/0.5. Around that range, the lens diameter can approach about twice the lens-to-film/sensor distance, though exact limits depend on lens design and materials.

So: yes, a small or thin camera can have a large lens in front, but there are physical and optical limits to how extreme that can be.

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