Can a hot-shoe flash use NiMH rechargeable AA batteries, and why might they not power it on?

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My Neewer NW670C flash uses 4 AA batteries. It works with alkaline AAs, but when I insert fully charged NiMH rechargeables, the flash will not power on at all. The NiMH cells measure about 1.4V each off the charger, while the partially used alkalines still working in the flash measure about 1.28V each. Can camera flashes normally use NiMH batteries, and if so, why would a flash refuse to start with them? Also, why don’t most speedlights offer a simple 6V DC input instead of relying only on AA batteries or dedicated high-voltage external packs?

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Although freshly charged NiMH measure at 1.4 or so volts, they quickly drop to 1.2 under load. However, unlike alkalines, they stay around that 1.2 for a long time (this is called a "relatively flat discharge curve").

Alkalines by contrast have a much steeper discharge curve but do present a higher terminal voltage when new. (Hint: You can separate unused alkalines from somewhat-used ones with a digital multimeter. The unused ones should measure 1.6V or so.)

Either way, your flash seems to be absurdly sensitive to battery voltage. No doubt the reason your flash "uses up" the alkalines so quickly is that they have dropped below the voltage the flash is happy with. There's likely still plenty of energy in them.

Conclusion: Maybe the flash is defective but I bet it's just a poorly designed unit. I have never had a flash that failed to work very well with 4xAA NiMH cells. This includes camera-maker-brand flashes "dedicated" to my camera, other-maker flashes also "dedicated" to my camera, and some "vintage" Vivitars that just do "auto-thyristor" mode with their own sensor.

Aside: I wouldn't trust Ikea brand batteries of any type. Nor any other store brand. Big chain stores pay the real battery manufacturers to wrap their store name on whatever batteries are cheapest this month. otoh I've had absurdly good results from not-nationally-advertised-brand alkalines, and far less leakage than from one of the best-known name brands. Your results may vary.

For NiMH cells, from my experience, I'd try Panasonic (Eneloop or not, your choice, Eneloops are low self-discharge but lower energy storage), Tenergy, or Powerex (Maha). Powerex/Maha also make some of the best NiMH chargers available.

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Yes—speedlights commonly work with NiMH AA batteries, and the NW670C is reported to support them. In many flashes, NiMH cells are actually preferable because they handle high current well and usually give longer practical use than alkalines, despite their lower nominal voltage.

If your flash won’t turn on with NiMH cells, likely causes are:

  • poor battery quality or overstated capacity,
  • contact issues in the flash or on the batteries,
  • slightly different battery length/fit,
  • or a flash that is unusually sensitive to voltage/current behavior.

NiMH batteries often read around 1.4V right off the charger but quickly settle near 1.2V under load. Alkalines start higher but their voltage drops faster in use. A badly designed flash may reject NiMH cells even though they still have plenty of usable energy.

Try a different, reputable set of NiMH batteries made for high-drain devices, and clean the battery contacts. Based on your update, that solved the problem.

As for a 6V DC input: a flash draws very high current while recharging, so a simple small 6V adapter would need to be fairly hefty. That’s one reason many flashes use AA batteries internally and reserve external ports for dedicated high-voltage battery packs instead.

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