Why won’t my Canon IXUS 165 focus at full 8x zoom?

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My Canon IXUS 165 focuses normally at shorter zoom settings, but when I zoom all the way to 8x it won’t lock focus on a nearby subject. For example, at full zoom (around f/6.9) and about 16 inches from my monitor, autofocus fails, while at less than 8x zoom it works. I’m using normal mode, not macro. Is this a fault, or is there a focusing limit at full telephoto?

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Lenses have a minimum focus distance: that is, a limit where the lens is physically incapable of focusing on any subject closer than that distance.

The specs for the Ixus 165 state that the lens it has a focal length range of 5-40mm. The specs also state that you can shoot from 1cm away, but qualify that spec for being in Macro mode, with the lens set to (W) or the wide end of the zoom range: 5mm--the exact opposite end from zooming in 8x (using 40mm). I assume the 5cm focus distance in "normal" mode is also for the wide end of the zoom range.

The wider the lens, the closer you can get to things. Being in macro mode doesn't actually make your lens capable of focusing closer, it simply changes the distances through which the AF system searches for focus. Macro mode simply tells the camera to search through the full focus range, but because this substantially slows down AF speed it's a special mode; out of Macro mode, the super-close distances are skipped to speed up AF.

The longer the focal length of the lens, however, the bigger the minimum focus distance becomes. 12 inches may still be too close if the lens is zoomed all the way out to the telephoto (T) end of the range: 40mm. When I shoot with a 400mm lens on my dSLR, anything closer than 10 feet cannot be focused on. And with my 40mm f/2.8, the minimum focus distance is 11.8". I think if you'd simply moved back an inch or so, then your camera's lens would have been able to achieve focus.

Another issue that may cause an issue with achieving AF lock would include shooting in low light (not enough contrast for the AF system to detect an in-focus situation), but that doesn't look to be the case here, since text with a white background should give you plenty of contrast.

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This is most likely normal behavior, not a fault. At full 8x zoom, your camera is at the telephoto end of the lens, and the minimum focus distance becomes much longer than at wide angle. Compact cameras can focus very close only at the wide end, especially in macro mode.

For the IXUS 165, the manual indicates close focus is available at wide angle, but at the long end the minimum focus distance is about 1 meter. Since you were only about 16 inches (roughly 40 cm) from the screen, the camera was too close to focus at full zoom.

Why it works when zoomed out: wider focal lengths allow closer focusing. Macro mode mainly tells autofocus to search the close-focus range; it does not let the telephoto end focus closer than the lens can physically manage.

Try this:

  • move farther from the subject when using 8x zoom
  • zoom out if you need to shoot close
  • use macro mode only for close shots at the wide end

So the issue is the lens’s minimum focus distance at full zoom, not necessarily a broken camera.

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