Why does the Yongnuo YN685 underexpose in E-TTL bounce flash at longer focal lengths?
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I’m using a Yongnuo YN685 on a Canon 5D Mark III with a 24-105mm f/4. In direct comparison to a Canon 580EX, the YN685 gives reasonable bounce-flash exposure at 24mm, but as I zoom the lens longer the exposure gets progressively darker. By 105mm, the image is about 2–3 stops underexposed in the same room and bounce setup. The flash has enough power, because manual flash at around 3/4 power gives correct exposure. I’ve seen the same behavior with two different YN685 units, so I’m trying to determine whether this is a defect or a known E-TTL behavior. Is there a reliable fix for Yongnuo bounce-flash underexposure on Canon bodies?
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This is a known bug with Yongnuo flashes (notably the YN-685's predecessors, the YN-568EX and YN-568EX II). TTL tends to be inaccurate and will underexpose unless you switch the metering mode from Evaluative to Average (see: this DPReview discussion, where one person claims Yongnuo support themselves suggested switching to Average metering).
This is, after all, a $100 reverse-engineer flash of cheap Chinese manufacture. While it may have some feature parity with Canon's flashes, it will always lag behind on copy and component consistency, backwards/future compatibility, warranty service, and resale value. They're great for hobbyist usage, less so for professional usage. While their QA has gotten noticeably better since the days of the notorious Strobist review of the YN-560, the low-low price has gotta come from somewhere. And if it's a new model and you're an early adopter, you may still be an inadvertent beta tester. Yongnuo has many quirks, and the fact that aficionados can tell you where to find manufacture date codes and which dates align with which silent updates is only one sign of this.
You may want to look into Godox's Wistro (bare bulb) and Ving (speedlight) flashes, Phottix's Mitros+ speedlights, or (if you want to go manual-only speedlight) LumoPro's LP180R for pro hardiness and reliability—not to mention better trigger interoperability (Yongnuo's got three separate triggering systems—none of which work together) if you still want to go third party vs. OEM. The Flash Havoc blog is a good source for what's out there.
Most folks purchase a YN-685 simply to have a cheap YN-622C off-camera slave. I love my Yonguo gear for off-camera, but for on-camera bouncing, I'll grab my 580EXII first, every time.
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This appears to be a known Yongnuo E-TTL issue rather than a defect in a single unit. Reports on the YN685 and related Yongnuo models indicate that bounce-flash TTL can underexpose, especially in Evaluative E-TTL metering.
The practical fix is to change the camera’s flash metering setting from E-TTL II Evaluative to E-TTL II Average in the camera’s external speedlite/flash control menu. Users reporting the same problem found that Average metering restored normal bounce-flash exposure.
If manual flash gives correct results, that also suggests the flash power is fine and the problem is with TTL metering behavior, not lack of output.
So: try E-TTL II Average first. If you rely heavily on bounce flash for event work, test it thoroughly before trusting it on paid jobs, since third-party TTL flashes can be less consistent than Canon OEM units.
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