Why does a PK-to-EOS adapter chip cause a communication error on a Canon 650D?

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I bought a Pentax K to Canon EOS adapter for using older Pentax K lenses on my Canon 650D. The adapter includes an AF-confirmation chip, but when it is mounted the camera shows a communication error and locks up. I’ve read that some of these chips can be programmed, but I can’t get that far because the camera freezes before I can try any setup steps. The seller listed compatibility with the Canon 600D, but not the 650D. Is this likely a compatibility issue between the adapter chip and the 650D, and is there any practical fix?

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It sounds like your adapter was developed earlier than the EOS Rebel T4i/650D. The third party makers of such adapters don't license technology from Canon, they reverse engineer it. If Canon starts using a part of their existing protocol that hasn't been used in the past, reverse engineered third party products sometimes don't work with the new devices. This happens with third party batteries, lenses, teleconverters, flashes, etc.

Some lens makers will issue firmware updates to make their slightly older lenses work with newer camera bodies. Sometimes that requires a trip to a service center to reprogram or change a chip. Recently both Sigma and Tamron have created USB docks that attach directly to the lens that allows the end user to update firmware (and do other helpful things as well). This allows them to bypass trying to update a lens using the interface on the incompatible camera.

Many third party battery makers will replace batteries that were already in dealers inventories with newer versions that have updated firmware reverse engineered after the release of a new camera body if the buyer contacts them and explains that the battery was purchased to be used in a recently released model that has an update making the older version of the third party battery incompatible.

For lens adapters, though, I've never heard of makers/sellers sending a buyer a newer update if the adapter they bought doesn't work with a newer camera. It couldn't hurt to contact them and ask. Considering that the EOS Rebel T4i/650D has been out for quite a while, I wouldn't expect much luck on that front. They're just as likely to say something like, "You should have read the description before you ordered it."

If the chip is programmable and can be updated to work with the EOS Rebel T4i/650D, you're going to have to connect to it using an interface other than your camera.

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Yes — this is most likely a compatibility problem between the adapter’s AF-confirm chip and the 650D body.

These chips are third-party products that imitate Canon lens communication by reverse engineering the protocol. If Canon changed or started using a part of that protocol differently on the 650D, an older adapter chip may fail and trigger a communication error. That kind of issue is known to happen with third-party lenses, batteries, flashes, and teleconverters as newer camera bodies appear.

If the adapter was designed for older EOS models such as the 600D, it may simply not work properly on the 650D. In some cases, third-party products can be updated or re-chipped, but that depends entirely on the adapter maker. If the camera locks up immediately, user programming may not be possible.

Practical options:

  • contact the adapter seller/maker to ask if the chip supports the 650D or can be updated
  • exchange it for a newer adapter confirmed to work with the 650D
  • use a non-chipped PK-EOS adapter and shoot fully manually

The Pentax lenses themselves should still work as manual-focus, manual-aperture lenses with the correct mechanical adapter.

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