Why can large-sensor smartphone lenses be so small, and could interchangeable-camera lenses shrink similarly?

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Some smartphones now use relatively large sensors, yet their lenses remain tiny. For example, a phone with about a 1/1.3-inch sensor and a roughly 24–25mm equivalent main camera uses a lens that is much smaller and lighter than a similar-angle, similar-aperture Micro Four Thirds lens such as a 12mm f/2.

Why is there such a large size difference? Is it mainly because phone cameras can place the rear lens elements extremely close to the sensor, while interchangeable-lens cameras need mount clearance and space to protect the sensor? Does this mean there is still major room to make system-camera lenses much smaller and lighter, or are phone lenses relying on compromises such as strong software correction, limited image circle, or designs that do not scale well to larger interchangeable-lens formats?

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Wide angle lenses for system cameras (going back to the Contax and Leica of the 1930s) were often of retrofocus design, so that a very wide lens could mount on a flange of fixed distance from (then) the film plane. This became critical once SLRs were common -- you can make a 35 mm lens for a Contax or Leica rangefinder mount with a deeply protruding rear element group and still clear everything inside the camera, but once you have a moving reflex mirror between the flange and the focal plane shutter, you have a hard limit on how far the lens elements can protrude into the mirror box.

Now, fast forward 90 years -- even in 2022 almost no smart phones feature interchangeable lenses (two years ago, there'd have been no "almost" there), and they have software internal to the "camera" to correct for certain aberrations (like pincushion or barrel distortion), which can simplify the lens design -- especially for wide angle lenses. Rear elements can be as close to the sensor as they need to be -- so there's no need for all the extra elements needed just to make a lens mounted 41-45 mm from the sensor act like it has a 25 mm focal length.

Eliminating those requirements of system lenses (all of which are pretty recently descended from film camera system lenses) means the lens designs can be simplified which, in turn, lets a lens with the same focal length and aperture be physically smaller.

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Smartphone lenses are small mainly because the whole system is optimized around a fixed lens and a sensor placed very close behind it. That allows designs with rear elements protruding deeply toward the sensor, something interchangeable-lens cameras usually cannot do because the mount must leave clearance and accommodate many lenses. Historically, wide lenses for interchangeable cameras often needed retrofocus designs specifically to clear the camera body; those designs are larger.

Phones also accept tradeoffs that are easier when lens and camera are a single product: heavy software correction, tight optimization to one sensor, and a very small image circle. Those approaches can reduce size, but they do not translate directly to interchangeable-lens systems, which need broader compatibility and better correction across a larger usable image area.

So yes, short back focus helps a lot, and fixed-lens integration helps even more. But that does not mean a smartphone lens design can simply be scaled up into an equally tiny Micro Four Thirds lens. Interchangeable-camera lenses face different mechanical and optical constraints, and some smartphone tricks become harder or less attractive as lens size and format increase.

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