Why can I move the focus point anywhere in Live View, but only within a smaller area in the viewfinder on my Nikon D850?

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On my Nikon D850, when I focus through the optical viewfinder in AF-S or other autofocus modes, I can only move the focus point within a relatively small area near the center of the frame. But in Live View, I can move the autofocus point much more freely, even close to the edges. Is this normal behavior, or is there a setting that changes the focus area available in the viewfinder?

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When you focus using the focus points visible in the optical viewfinder, you are using phase-detect autofocus (PDAF). The sensors for are located on a secondary sensor that is not part of the imaging sensor, which receives light reflected off the mirror while it is down. These focusing points are fixed in location and cannot be moved (although they are typically a bit bigger than what's actually displayed in your viewfinder).

On the other hand, live view uses contrast detection autofocus (CDAF). This uses the actual imaging sensor, and works by analyzing the image that the sensor itself is receiving with the mirror up. Because it's using the imaging sensor itself, rather than a bunch of secondary sensors in a fixed grid, you have more flexibility in choosing your focus points.

This cannot really be changed, other than by switching to a camera body that has a denser pattern of PDAF sensors. Although, the D850, with 153 PDAF sensors (some with varying characteristics), you're already towards the top of the pile in that respect - some older PDAF sensors only had e.g. 9 or 15 elements.

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Yes, this is normal. Your D850 uses two different autofocus systems depending on how you shoot.

Through the optical viewfinder, the camera uses a separate phase-detection autofocus system. Its AF points are fixed in physical locations, so they only cover a limited area of the frame, usually centered. That coverage cannot be expanded by a setting.

In Live View, the camera focuses using the imaging sensor itself. Because focus is being evaluated directly from the sensor image, the camera can place the focus area over much more of the frame.

So the difference you’re seeing is by design, not a problem with your camera. The tradeoff is that each system has strengths and weaknesses: viewfinder AF is typically faster for many situations, while Live View gives more flexible focus placement.

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