Why does my Canon 70D autofocus faster through the viewfinder than in Live View, especially in low light?

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On my Canon 70D, autofocus through the optical viewfinder is fast and accurate with lenses like the Yongnuo 35mm and Canon EF-S 10-18mm STM. But in Live View and video, autofocus often hunts or fails completely in dimmer scenes, even though the 70D is known for strong Live View/video AF.

In bright light both modes work fine. In lower light, however, Live View struggles even when the subject seems visible on screen. I was also using Magic Lantern, and noticed focus peaking could still detect edges when autofocus could not. Why would the viewfinder AF perform much better than Live View AF, and are there settings or scene characteristics that could cause this?

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LiveView uses Contrast AF which is considerably slower and older technology. However, through your lens, you're using Phase AF.

Here's a really good article on FStoppers about it: https://fstoppers.com/education/difference-between-dslrs-viewfinder-autofocus-and-live-view-autofocus-195881

Phase Detection:

Phase detection autofocus functions using a pair of micro lenses to compare light flowing through opposite sides of the lenses. It then aligns those two images on top of each other. Due to the images being drawn from a different position on the main lens the pair of images will be slightly different. However, the point of critical focus will be perfectly aligned. If this point of critical focus is within the bounds of the active autofocus point, the camera is in a focused state.

Contrast:

Contrast detection autofocus, while comparably complex in theory, is actually much easier to understand in layman terms. When autofocusing in live view, a DSLR records images from the sensor in real time that it then analyzes for the intensity of contrast between adjacent pixels within the bounds of the focus point. If the contrast intensity reaches a required threshold, the camera is in a focused state. Because contrast detection analyzes an image from the sensor itself, the analysis can be done on any area of the sensor without difficulty. For this reason, live view autofocus can target even the far corners of the frame.

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The most likely reasons are:

  1. Different AF systems: Through the viewfinder, a DSLR uses a dedicated phase-detect AF system, which is usually faster and more decisive. In Live View/video, the camera relies on on-sensor AF methods that can be more sensitive to scene contrast and may hunt more in dim light.

  2. Low subject contrast: Your sample target sounds like a dark, mostly featureless lens cap. Even if the scene doesn’t look very dark overall, AF needs contrast or detail at the selected focus point. A logo edge may help the viewfinder AF more than Live View AF.

  3. Magic Lantern/settings: One answer suggests Magic Lantern may have enabled stop-down metering/focusing or other altered settings. If the lens is being stopped down while focusing, AF performance can get worse. Reset camera settings to defaults and test again.

Focus peaking is not proof that AF should succeed instantly; peaking only highlights visible contrast, while autofocus still has to determine exact focus and drive the lens correctly.

Try testing with default settings, wide-open aperture, and a high-contrast target in the AF area.

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