What lens on a Canon 800D comes closest to a 28-560mm bridge camera for travel, portraits, and close-ups?

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I’m moving from a Sony DSC-HX1 bridge camera with a built-in 28-560mm equivalent zoom to a Canon EOS 800D, and I’m confused about how to compare that range to DSLR lenses. I’d like one lens, if possible, that gets close to the same all-in-one convenience for landscapes, portraits, long zoom, and some close-up work. Is there a Canon-compatible lens that approximates this range, and what trade-offs should I expect compared with my bridge camera?

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The entire point of an interchangeable lens system camera is to allow you to use different lenses that are better or even great at one thing but unsuitable for other things. Fixed lens cameras force you to use a single lens that is mediocre or worse at a lot of things but better at nothing.

The best lenses are all prime lenses. That means a single focal length. No.Zoom.At.All. They're really good when they provide the field of view and other characteristics you need. This is because they can be optimized to do one thing at one focal length. A good flat field 100mm macro lens is different from a good 85mm, 105mm, or 135mm portrait lens. But such specialized lenses are not always very flexible, so you need a lot of them for various different things. Some are pretty good for not much money (e.g. EF 50mm f/1.8 STM @ $120). Others are incredibly good for a boatload of cash (e.g. EF 400mm f/2.8 L IS II @ $10K). Most fall somewhere in between.

Short ratio zoom lenses, that is zoom lenses with a less than 3X difference between their longest and shortest focal length, can also be very good. But the best ones cost a lot. A lens like the Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L II runs around $2K and can match the image quality, if not the maximum aperture, of a $120 EF 50mm f/1.8 STM. It's also built a bit better and can shoot at 24mm (with near the same IQ as a mid-priced 24mm prime) and 70mm and anywhere in between.

When you move outside of the 3x limit is when image quality really starts to noticeably go down. Some 4-5X zoom lenses that fall entirely in the telephoto range can be pretty good. But when you start trying to design a lens that goes from wide angle to telephoto and covers a 5X-10X or more zoom range, that is when it really starts getting difficult to keep it affordable and manageable with regard to size and weight and still provide excellent image quality. You'll usually get better image quality and spend less buying something like an 18-55mm and a 55-250mm pair of zoom lenses than you would get with an 18-200mm 'all-in-one'.

The other thing you must consider is that larger sensors require larger lenses to get the same field of view. Your 28-560mm superzoom is really a 5-100mm lens in front of a sensor that is 5.6X smaller in linear measurements and covers an area less than 1/30 the size of a FF sensor. It also cover less than 1/12 the area of the APS-C Canon 800D. There are tradeoffs with low light ability, noise level even when shooting in daylight, image sharpness, particularly at the telephoto end, etc. that were made to give you that "20X zoom".

Will you get better image quality with an 800D and something like a Tamron 18-400mm f/3.5-6.3 Di II VC compared to your current Sony? You probably will.

But you'd get even better quality spending that $650 you'd need for the Tamron 18-400mm towards a collection of other lenses. Something along the lines of the 18-55mm kit lens for about $100 more than the body only, an EF 55-250mm f/4-5.6 STM for about $300 (or the older EF 55-2550mm f/4-5.6 IS II that is getting harder to find new for around $100-150), and an EF 50mm f/1.8 STM for about $120. You'd still be $100+ bucks ahead. If you really want a little more focal length then get a 70-300mm for about $500 new (or $350 used) instead of the 55-250mm (avoid any version of the EF 75-300mm, it's the worst lens Canon makes). 300mm on your APS-C Canon gets you to 480mm FF equivalent FoV.

Anything past 300mm for an APS-C or larger sensor camera is really going to start costing some money or the maximum aperture and/or image quality is going to start to suffer. There are some 150-600mm zooms from Tamron and Sigma for a little over $1,000 that some folks like. They have fairly narrow maximum apertures of f/6.3 so they are pretty good in bright light but aren't very useful for sports/action under lights or for wildlife in the early morning and late afternoon when most wild animals are most active.

If you decide you just have to have that kind of reach then consider another newer and hopefully better 'superzoom' bridge camera rather than a DSLR. Or be prepared to take out a second or third mortgage on your house.

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There isn’t a perfect DSLR/APS-C equivalent that matches a 28-560mm bridge camera and also does macro, portraits, and everything else equally well.

The closest single-lens option mentioned is a superzoom such as the Tamron 16-300mm for Canon APS-C, which gives roughly a 26-480mm full-frame equivalent on the 800D. An 18-400mm type lens gets even closer in reach, roughly 29-640mm equivalent.

The trade-off is image quality and lens speed: superzooms are convenient, but they’re generally weaker optically than more specialized lenses, and their relatively small maximum apertures make them less ideal for portraits and low light. They also are not true macro lenses; for example, the 16-300mm’s close-focus ability is limited and won’t replace a dedicated macro lens.

So if your priority is one-lens convenience, a superzoom is the nearest match. If your priority is better image quality, portraits, or macro, the main advantage of the 800D is using different lenses for different jobs rather than trying to replicate a bridge camera with one lens.

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