What gear do I need for a 3-light setup with a Nikon SB-700, including off-camera triggering?

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I have a Nikon D7000 and one SB-700, and I want to build a 3-light setup for home studio portraits while keeping some flexibility for outdoor use. I’d like to use the SB-700 as one of the off-camera lights and have all three lights fire together.

I’m confused about what hardware I need beyond the lights themselves: triggers, stands, brackets, modifiers, etc. I’m also unsure whether I should build around Nikon CLS/TTL or use manual radio triggers.

One goal I had in mind was triggering a light at very long distance and without line of sight, such as illuminating a subject far away outdoors at dusk. Is that practical with flash, and what kind of triggering/setup would that require?

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There's one question here I was really curious about the answer to:

I want to be able to use one of the lights outside and at far distances (let's say to light a subject on a mountain while shooting from its base and getting the subject illuminated at dusk time).

There are a few difficulties with this. For one, positioning the light: placing the light at the base of the mountain and shooting towards the peak would be casting some light upwards and that would always be an unflattering photo. Also, with the light so far away it will be harsh and also create an unflattering photo. But, looking at the math:

guide number = f stop x distance

So, for arguments sake, lets shoot at f4. Mount Washington in New Hampshire is 6288 feet tall, and the visitor center is at 2032 feet, for an elevation change of 4256 feet (or just shy of 1300 meters). So, that means: 4 x 4256, for a guide number (in feet) of 17,024.

  • The SB700, when shot at full zoom at ISO 100 gives a guide number of 125. 17024 / 125 tells us you would need 137 SB700s to match that.
  • I'm happy to say I invested in SB900s, which have a guide number of 172, so I would only need 99 of them! (At the same ISO 100, zoomed to 105mm.)
  • Let's go for something bigger but still portable: a Metz Mecablitz 76 MZ-5 (zoomed to 105mm, shot at ISO 100) has a guide number of nearly 250. You'd only need 68 of those!
  • Ok, so maybe you'll need to think of "portable" as "bring a power pack or generator." Elinchrom's BRX 500 has a guide number of 270, so you'll still need 64 of those. (Though that measurement is with a 48 degree reflector; I bet you could get a little higher guide number with a tighter reflector.)

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For a basic 3-light kit, you’ll typically need: three lights, light stands, mounting brackets/swivels, and whatever modifiers you want (umbrellas/softboxes), plus a way to trigger them together.

For triggering, radio triggers are the simplest way to fire multiple off-camera lights at once and don’t require line of sight. CLS/TTL can work, but line-of-sight and system compatibility can limit you; manual radio-triggered lights are usually cheaper and simpler.

Your SB-700 can be one light in the setup, and the other two can be additional speedlights or studio strobes. A permanent studio light doesn’t need to be portable, but portability is useful if you want to use it outside too. Stands, trigger mounts, and a couple of clamps are also handy.

As for lighting a subject on a mountaintop from very far away: that’s generally impractical with normal flash. Distance causes flash power to fall off dramatically, so even if you can trigger the light remotely, getting enough useful illumination at that range is the real problem. For very distant outdoor subjects, placing the light near the subject is more realistic than trying to blast light from far away.

A good next step is to learn the basics of off-camera lighting before buying into a system.

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