What color space should I use for prints from a local photo lab?

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When preparing images for magazines or newspapers, I convert files from RGB to CMYK before placing them in page-layout software. But for prints from a local photo lab, I usually leave the files in RGB. The one time I sent a CMYK image, the print colors were badly off. Why are photo lab printers different from traditional offset presses, and what color space should I deliver to a lab?

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The lab photo printers are likely to be dye-sublimation, or silver-halide (where the digital image is projected onto normal photo paper) which unlike lithography don't require halftoning, however they still use ink and thus follow the subtractive colour model, so the principal is the same.

The reason your colours were off is probably due to CMYK conversion using a different colour model than the one the printer uses (Photoshop defualts to SWOP CMYK, which I believe was developed for an offset print process), as the dyes in a photo lab printer will be different in colour to the ones used in lithographic printer and so require different quantities of each colour in order to [try to] replicate a given RGB value.

Unless advised otherwise by the printers you're probably best using the widest gamut available to you (usually Adobe RGB, which will likely contain 99% if not all of the printer gamut) and let the printer handle the CMYK conversion. You can ask the printer for a colour profile for their equipment in order to have more control over this process and "soft proof" the expected results on your monitor. But unless you need to edit the image in CYMK (for example to get a specific black mix) doing the coversion yourself will just create much larger files (since you can't use jpeg for this) and runs the risk of incorrect results if done with the wrong profile.

At the end of the day producing artwork for a subtractive print process using an additive output device (i.e. a computer monitor) is error prone. It will take several attempts to get the colours how you want them when printing.

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For a photo lab, send RGB files, not CMYK. Most consumer labs are set up around RGB workflows, and many expect sRGB specifically. Some minilabs ignore embedded profiles and simply treat files as sRGB, so CMYK files can produce very inaccurate color.

This differs from offset printing for magazines/newspapers, where CMYK conversion is part of the press workflow and is matched to a specific printing condition. A photo lab may use silver-halide/RA-4, dye-sub, or inkjet output, but that does not mean you should supply CMYK files. Their printers/drivers are usually profiled to accept RGB data and convert it internally to the machine’s own process.

Best practice:

  • Ask the lab what color space they require.
  • If they provide an ICC profile or clear instructions, follow that.
  • If they do not know or give no guidance, export in sRGB.
  • Don’t assume Adobe RGB is supported unless the lab explicitly says so.

In short: offset press workflows often need CMYK; photo labs usually want RGB, most often sRGB.

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