What causes cloud-like mottling on 4x5 film, especially when using the same holder?
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I sometimes get irregular cloud-like patterns on 4x5 film. They are visible on the film itself, not caused by scanning, and I’ve seen them on both color negative and slide film. The pattern changes from frame to frame. These examples were made with different cameras but the same film holder. On some frames the shape seems related to the film holder’s inner ledge, though slightly offset. What is the likely cause, and how can I prevent it?
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This is mottling.
I've seen it on my own film, which I processed myself, after the film sat in the film holder for too long. My hypothesis is that it's caused by condensation due to temperature changes; liquid water on the emulsion of the film can dissolve sensitizing dyes and redistribute them unevenly, making parts of the film less sensitive to light, and parts more, or changing spectral sensitivity locally.
The main way I'm aware of to avoid it is to load film holders shortly before you'll expose the film, and unload them (into a suitable light-tight holding container) as soon as practical after exposure (and then process them as soon as practical after that). Sadly, this can also happen to film still in the box, if it's not airtight and is subject to high humidity and/or multiple temperature cycles (for instance, being put into and taken out of a refrigerator multiple times).
This means the rule for storing film should be "Keep it cold until you're ready to use it, let it warm to room temperature before you open it, then store it at room temperature thereafter."
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This is most likely film mottling, not scanner noise. A likely cause is moisture/condensation affecting the emulsion while the sheet film sits in the holder or storage, especially with humidity or temperature swings. Water on the emulsion can redistribute sensitizing dyes unevenly, producing cloud-like density/color changes. That fits your symptoms: it appears on different film types, varies frame to frame, and may show patterns influenced by the holder area.
To reduce the risk:
- load holders shortly before shooting
- unload exposed sheets as soon as practical
- process exposed film promptly
- avoid humidity and repeated temperature changes
- store film and loaded holders as dry and stable as possible
It can also happen to film in the box if storage conditions are poor, so the holder may not be the only factor, but the fact that the issue follows the same holder suggests handling/storage around that holder is worth checking first.
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