Should I scan film prints, negatives, or slides in a wider color space than sRGB?

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I’m scanning old analogue photos and film and want to know whether using a wider color space than sRGB is worthwhile. For example, with typical Kodak color negative film printed onto photographic paper, is the print’s color behavior anything like CMYK, or is that the wrong way to think about it? Does the same idea apply to negatives and slides/positives as well?

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Getting to your ultimate question about the gamut to use for scanning photos.

The short answer is that yes, it can make sense to scan photos with a wider gamut than sRGB. Modern printers can definitely print colors that fall outside of sRGB (in fact, a fair number even exceed the range of AdobeRGB 98).

The only real question then is what colors you have in the prints you're scanning. That varies drastically.

  • If you're starting from something taken on '80s vintage Kodacolor 400, printed at a typical one-hour photo, and not stored particularly carefully since, then sRGB is probably plenty to capture everything in the picture. Newer films are generally better, but some one-hour printers have gotten even worse, so newer prints aren't necessarily a lot better.

  • If you're scanning something like carefully stored, top quality Cibachrome (aka Ilfochrome) prints, then you'd almost certainly want to use at least AdobeRGB. If it were up to me, I'd do everything I could to be sure nothing was lost--which for color space would mean using ProPhoto RGB, and 16 bits per channel. Then, once it's captured you can try to figure out whether everything you've captured falls within AdobeRGB 98, and if so convert to that (and 8 bits per channel, so the files suddenly get quite a bit smaller). But I'd do my best to capture everything first, then see if it'll all fit in a smaller color space.

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Traditional photographic film and color paper are not literally CMYK in the way ink printing is. A useful rule of thumb is that image-forming systems based on light and photographic emulsions are treated as RGB/additive in capture and display workflows, while pigment/ink printing is subtractive/CMYK-like.

For scanning, the practical question is not whether the original is “CMYK,” but whether the original contains colors outside sRGB and whether your scanner can capture them. Prints, negatives, and slides do not have embedded color profiles; you choose a working color space based on the scanner and your workflow.

In many everyday cases—especially older consumer negative film and standard lab prints—sRGB is likely sufficient. Quality varies a lot by film, print process, age, and storage, and many consumer scanners are the limiting factor anyway. Some originals and some output devices can exceed sRGB, so scanning into a wider space can make sense if your scanner and editing workflow support it, but it is not automatically necessary.

So: no, classic photo prints are not simply “CMYK,” and yes, the same general scanning logic applies to prints, negatives, and slides.

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