How should I develop Tri-X 400 rated at ISO 200 in Rodinal?

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I shot a roll of Kodak Tri-X 400 at EI 200 and want to develop it in Rodinal at 20°C. What dilution, development time, and agitation pattern are commonly recommended? I previously pushed Tri-X to 1600 in Rodinal 1+50 and got harsh negatives with blown highlights, so I’m hoping for a gentler result this time.

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The massive dev chart recommendation (9 mins) will be fine. I agitate for the first 60 seconds then 10 seconds a minute, all by inversion except for LF film (which tends to come loose in the tank and damage itself). I'm sure agitating by stirring if you have tanks which allow that is just as good: I just don't do it.

It's unsurprising that your previous results were not good: pushing Tri-X two stops is going to result in hard, grainy negs which will inevitably lose highlight & shadow detail: that's what pushed B/W film looks like, especially pushed Tri-X. It then looks from your description as if you took a picture in difficult lighting conditions (in my house today there's about 4 stops difference between the window embrasure and the wall next to it, and far more for windows lit by direct sun), probably using an averaging meter which is going to be just overwhelmed in light like that.

Ther's nothing wrong with what the massive dev chart suggests: you simply got the results you should have expected. No magic is going to make Tri-X pushed to 1600 not lose detail in cases like that.

Might I also suggest that just using Tri-X at its rated speed is probably a good place to start? Perhaps you've already processed lots of such films, in which case I apologise for suggesting something you've already done. (I've exposed probably thousands of rolls of Tri-X: I don't think I've ever used it at other than rated speed.)

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A conventional starting point is Rodinal 1+50 for about 9 minutes at 20°C, with agitation for the first 60 seconds, then 10 seconds every minute after that.

A few responders note that Rodinal tends to reduce effective film speed somewhat, so rating Tri-X 400 at EI 200 is reasonable.

Your poor results at EI 1600 are not surprising: pushing Tri-X that far in Rodinal usually gives hard, grainy negatives with reduced highlight and shadow detail. Rodinal generally isn’t a great choice for pushing film.

If you want to experiment, one alternative mentioned is semi-stand/stand-style development at 1:100, using about 5 mL Rodinal per roll, a 2-minute presoak, 1 minute of agitation at the start, another minute at 30 minutes, and 60 minutes total. But for a straightforward, predictable result, 1+50 for 9 minutes is the safer recommendation.

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