How does ETTR differ from LUTs or log/HDR recording, and can they be combined?

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I’m trying to understand whether Expose To The Right (ETTR) is doing something similar to using a LUT or log/HDR-style tonal mapping.

My understanding is that ETTR changes exposure so more of the sensor’s available data is used, especially in darker tones, while LUTs or log-style rendering remap captured tonal values for display or grading. Since both can produce a flatter-looking image before final processing, are they actually solving the same problem?

Specifically:

  1. What are the practical advantages and disadvantages of ETTR versus LUT/log/HDR-style tonal mapping?
  2. Can they be used together for any extra benefit, or are they unrelated techniques?

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I think you're comparing oranges to apples.

ETTR is setting up a shot to make the most of the sensor's data capacity, HDR or LUT is applied after the shot and can only amend whatever data is already there.

You can use ETTR to potentially "squeeze" more data into your shot when shooting in RAW which theoretically produces a better shot.

LUTs can be applied to any shot and might improve various visual aspects of the picture, but they can't improve the detail or dynamic range because you can't add any more data once the picture has been taken.

These are different stages in the photography process so they're not really comparable.

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They’re not really the same thing.

ETTR is a capture-stage exposure technique: you expose as brightly as possible without clipping important highlights so the sensor records the strongest possible signal, especially useful when shooting RAW. Its benefit is better use of the sensor’s available data and potentially cleaner shadow recovery.

A LUT is not a capture method. It’s a mapping applied to already-recorded image data, usually for preview, display, or grading. Likewise, log/HDR-style encoding affects how recorded tonal data is stored or displayed, but it does not create detail that the sensor never captured.

So:

  • ETTR advantage: can improve captured signal quality if exposure is increased without clipping.
  • ETTR downside: if pushed too far, highlights are lost.
  • LUT/log advantage: gives a more flexible or convenient tonal rendering for viewing/post.
  • LUT/log downside: cannot add dynamic range or recover clipped data after capture.

They can be used together, but for different reasons: ETTR helps optimize what the sensor captures; LUTs/log help interpret or grade that capture afterward. Combining them is not “double HDR” or extra dynamic range by itself—it only helps if ETTR improves the original capture and the later mapping makes better use of that recorded data.

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