How do flash sync speed and high-speed sync affect outdoor flash on the Sony A7C?

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I’m considering a Sony A7C and I’m confused about flash sync speed versus maximum shutter speed. The A7C has a flash sync speed of 1/160s and a maximum shutter speed of 1/4000s. I thought 1/160s was the fastest shutter speed I could use with flash, but I’ve seen examples of people shooting much faster, like 1/1600s, with flash.

Can the A7C use flash in bright daylight to make the ambient background very dark while keeping the subject correctly exposed? How much does sync speed matter for this kind of low-key outdoor flash setup, and is there any real advantage in choosing an A7 III instead?

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Can I use a flash on a Sony a7c that, during bright daylight I would be able to make the background black/low key (like a black wall - the ambient exposure ) while the subject to be correctly exposed ?

Assuming full sun falling on the subject and the wall? With a really big flash (like a 600-1200 Ws studio strobe) it might be possible, but it would be a lot easier with smaller lights in the shade or in a studio setting rather than outdoors in direct sunlight. To kill the ambient, you need to light at about +5EV above the ambient.

How important is the flash sync speed and max shutter speed?

It's important if you need faster shutter speeds while shooting flash, either to keep from overexposing in the ambient, or to achieve a thin DoF with daylight fill flash.

There is a flash feature called high-speed sync (HSS, aka focal plane or FP flash) where the flash can "fake" being a continuous light source for the duration of the exposure by pulsing continuously. But this feature also lowers the power output of a flash by about -2EV or more.

There's also a another form of syncing that I call "tail syncing" (commercially it goes by hypersync, hisync, HS, supersync, etc.), where a flash is typically fired at full power (longest pulse) with a slightly delayed shutter so that the flatter more even tail end of the pulse can be used as a continuous light source for a faster (1/1000s or so) exposure. So there are ways to use flash with a faster shutter speed. They're just going to rob you of flash light output as well and can be a game of diminishing returns.

If all you need is thin DoF with daylight fill, you can also consider putting a neutral density filter on your lens to allow you to shoot at sync speed or slower shutter speed without overexposing.

Should I skip a7c and go for a7iii instead?

I honestly don't think it makes that much of a difference for this specific feature. All focal plane shutter camera bodys have a flash sync speed limit. And while 1/250s is faster than 1/160s, it's only by 2/3 of a stop. And you'll still have to use HSS/FP flash or some other technique to get around that limit.

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The normal sync speed (1/160s on the A7C) is the fastest speed where the whole sensor is uncovered at once, so a regular flash burst can expose the full frame evenly. Above that, the shutter forms a moving slit, so a normal flash would partly miss the frame.

That’s why faster shutter speeds with flash require high-speed sync (HSS). In HSS, the flash pulses throughout the exposure so it works with the moving slit. The tradeoff is much lower effective flash power.

So yes, you can use flash faster than 1/160s on the A7C if your flash supports HSS. But making a sunlit background go very dark while keeping the subject bright is difficult outdoors unless you use a very powerful flash, place it close to the subject, use narrow apertures, and/or put the subject/background in shade. In full sun, “killing” ambient can require roughly 5 stops more light on the subject than the ambient exposure.

Sync speed matters most when balancing flash with daylight or trying to shoot wide apertures outdoors. The A7 III may help somewhat if its sync speed is a bit higher, but it won’t fundamentally change the challenge; flash power and HSS capability matter more.

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