How can I get bokeh circles with crisp, outlined edges?

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I want out-of-focus highlights that look like distinct circles with sharp rims, rather than soft, blended blobs. In some photos the bokeh discs seem to have a bright outline, while in my shots they look smoother and merge together. Is this something I can create in-camera, and what affects whether bokeh highlights look crisp or soft?

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It is a property of the lens. the bokeh highlights image not only shape of the aperture, but it also gets a profile. It can be a square profile, have sharp edge and then attenuate, have dots inside it, show cats eye, or be smooth like yours. The way the lens is corrected for spherical aberrations affect this.

Vintage lenses typically make sharp bokeh rings.

This is my Pentax M 50mm 1.4 vintage lens used on Canon 40D with k mount to eos adapter, and I did nothing to make them this sharp:

Pentax M 50mm 1.4

Even stopped down a bit that lens keeps rendering the hihglights as sharp, but more shuriken shaped (the shape of the blades:

stopped down

Note upper right corner where there is a bright sign over the door to a shop, it has a blurry edge. That bright light is too big to even make and aperture print. But you say your images always become blurry, so I dont think that's the case you are always seeing.

Also check out the old Helios lenses - they are well known for their pronounced bokeh shape, where the rims of hte edges are brighter than the middle:

http://forum.mflenses.com/helios-40-craze-t19605,start,30.html

And Jupiter 9:

http://www.steveoakley.net/template_permalink.asp?id=615

While carl zeiss is known to make some soft bokeh (see figure "Bokeh F-stop comparison"):

http://asia.cnet.com/hands-on-carl-zeiss-sonnar-t-e-24mm-f1-8-za-62211080.htm

See comparisons here: http://www.rickdenney.com/bokeh_test.htm

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Mostly this is created in-camera, not by “sharpening” bokeh later. The look of out-of-focus highlights depends mainly on:

  • Lens rendering: Different lenses draw blur discs differently. Spherical aberration correction strongly affects whether highlights have smooth centers or bright-edged “rings.” Many older/vintage lenses are known for sharper-edged bokeh highlights.
  • Light source size: Smaller, brighter point light sources produce more defined circles. Larger light sources make softer discs.
  • Overlap and spacing: If many highlights overlap, they blend and look mushier even if each disc is fairly sharp.
  • Aperture shape: This affects the shape of the blur discs, especially stopped down.

So if you want sharper, outlined bokeh circles, try:

  • a lens known for bright-ring or vintage-style bokeh
  • small distant point lights
  • shooting wide open or near wide open
  • composing so the highlights are more separated and the scene has high contrast

You generally can’t make naturally soft bokeh turn into true bright-ring bokeh just by post-processing.

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