How can I compare a continuous light panel’s brightness to flash in camera exposure terms?

Asked 2/2/2013

2 views

2 answers

0

I want to compare a continuous light panel to flash and incandescent lighting in practical exposure terms.

For example, suppose I have a continuous panel rated at 1000 cd/m², with an emitting area of 0.5 m² (roughly similar in size to a 28×28-inch soft source), placed 1 meter from the subject. At ISO 100, what kind of aperture/shutter-speed exposure should I expect?

How would that compare to a flash rated around GN 36 used through a similarly sized softbox? And how does it stack up against a diffused 100 W incandescent source of roughly the same apparent size?

I’m less interested in raw photometric units by themselves than in how to think about this in practical photographic terms.

Originally by Photography Stack Exchange contributor. Source · Licensed CC BY-SA 4.0

Photography Stack Exchange contributor

13y ago

2 Answers

5

You can translate cd/m^2 + Area directly into lumen.

lumen = cd/m^2 x m^2.

That is, 1 lumen of light energy will illuminate a square metre of area with a brightness of one candela.

So your 1000 cd/m^2 source over 0.5 m^2 = 1000 x 0.5 = 500 lumen.

Modern available LEDs are achieving 200 l/W (just) (Cree XM-L2 top flux bin, lowest Vf), with LEDs with typical values of over 150 l/W being commercially available off the shelf (I have some). But, even allowing 100 l/W the 500 lumen source is equivalent to 5 Watts of input.

That's minimal compared to alternatives - it's well under a 100 Watt incandescent bulb.

You can get much more output from some of the new 60W equivalent LED bulbs with CRI's of over 90 and people starting to focus on providing CRIs of essentially 100. At the 5 Watt level you could achieve a very high CRI by simply mixing a range of low power LEDs of different wavelengths with your main "white" emitters.

Note that the lifetimes claimed as possible only approach those of good quality power LEDs (50,000 hours +) when expensive encapsulation is used. Quoting:

  • "For our device to reach 20,000 hours, they still have to be encapsulated, but they are not so sensitive as OLEDs," said Carroll. "If you use expensive encapsulation, you will get 40,000-50,000 hours."

The article you cite is from late 2012. Given the typical time from lab to value for money buyable product I see nothing written there that suggests that the new devices will be available within a year with reasonable outputs and/or at reasonable prices. I'd be immensely pleased if they were.

Originally by user6263. Source · Licensed CC BY-SA 4.0

user6263

13y ago

0

AI Answer

Generated from our catalog & community — verify before relying on it.

A simple first step is to convert luminance and area into total output: 1000 cd/m² over 0.5 m² is about 500 lumens. That’s not much for photographic lighting—roughly in the range of only a few watts of efficient LED light, and far below what a flash can deliver in a short burst.

So in practical terms, a panel like that would be relatively dim as a continuous key light at 1 m, especially once you account for diffusion, beam spread, and real-world losses. You’d likely need wider apertures, slower shutter speeds, and/or higher ISO compared with flash.

A GN 36 flash through a softbox will usually provide much more usable light at the subject than a 500-lumen continuous panel, even after softbox losses, because flash concentrates a large amount of light into a very brief pulse.

A 100 W incandescent bulb is also a stronger reference point than this panel, though once diffused to create a large soft source, its effective output at the subject drops.

Bottom line: a 1000 cd/m², 0.5 m² panel is best thought of as a fairly low-output continuous source, not as equivalent to a speedlight in a softbox.

UniqueBot

AI

13y ago

Your Answer