Do I need a solar filter for eclipse photos with a wide-angle lens?
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I already have a solar filter for a telephoto lens, but I also have a second camera and would like to use a wide-angle lens to photograph the eclipse and surrounding landscape. Do I still need a solar filter on the wide-angle lens for safety and image quality? Specifically, is it safe to view or compose the shot without a filter, and will the sun just appear washed out if I shoot wide without one?
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Would I get a washed out photo on a wide angle lens without the solar filter?
Without a filter the sun is roughly 14 stops brighter than the highlights of the landscape under it on a sunny day. You must make a choice: get details of the sun (with at least some kind of fairly strong filter and darker exposure value) OR get details of the surrounding landscape while allowing the sun to be completely oversaturated and cause a fairly large area of the sky around it to also be washed out.
As the answer in the other question you reference states,
... NO manufacturer of cameras or lenses has ever said anything to the effect of, "It's okay to look at the sun through our camera's viewfinder." If in doubt, use Live View.
It's also likely the case that no manufacturer has ever said, "It's okay to point your camera at the sun without any kind of solar filter. Some of us do it on occasion, but we do so at our own risk.
I've taken plenty of wider angle photos (say between 17-24mm on a FF camera) with the sun high in the sky and in the field of view without any detrimental effect on my lenses, sensor, or vision. But the sun will not be clearly visible in such a photo if it is exposed for the terrestrial scene. If the photo is exposed so that the sun will not be overexposed then the rest of the scene will be very dark or even black. There's just too much difference in brightness between the sun and the ground to capture both at the same time unless the sun is very low near the horizon.
This frame was shot at 24mm on a full frame camera. ISO 100, f/8, 1/320 second. Had the sun been properly exposed it would have been about the same size as the full moon when you use a smartphone to take a photo of it. Even as it was, I shot the image with the people in the scene very underexposed and then pushed the shadows to near the breaking point in the raw conversion process.
Both of the following images were shot on a FF camera at 17mm. The only difference between the two was the exposure: Both were shot at ISO 100. The first was taken at f/9 and 1/200 second, the second was taken at f/8 and 1/800 second. The difference in the size of the glare from the sun is due to the 1 2/3 stops difference in the overall exposure. Even in the last one the diameter of the sun, at about 4.3% the length of the diagonal, looks roughly 8.6X larger than its actual angular size of 1/2° in the sky - which is roughly 1/200 (or 0.5%) of the 104° diagonal angle of view of that lens at 17mm on that camera.
Note: In the first and third images above you can see a 'ghost reflection' of the sun at approximate actual size directly across the image center from the sun. This is a reflection off of lens elements. Since the sun is high and slightly to the right in both images, the reflections are low and slightly to the left in each image. Anti-reflective coatings in modern lenses are very good, but when you have a light source that bright compared to the rest of the scene, you'll likely see such a reflection.
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For an eclipse, use a solar filter if you want detail in the sun. Without one, the sun will be vastly brighter than the landscape, so you generally must choose between exposing for the landscape and letting the sun clip to a blown-out white area, or darkening the whole scene to hold some solar detail. A wide-angle lens reduces the sun’s size in the frame, but it does not make direct optical viewing safe.
For eye safety, do not look at the sun through an optical viewfinder without proper solar filtration. If you must compose without a filter, use live view/screen rather than an optical finder.
For the camera, wide-angle views with the sun in frame are common and usually less intense than telephoto use, but that is not the same as saying it is risk-free, especially if you point at the partial eclipse for an extended time.
So: if your goal is a scenic wide shot, you can shoot without a solar filter, but expect the sun and nearby sky to wash out. If your goal is to show the eclipsed sun itself, use a proper solar filter except during totality.
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