Why can a Lightroom preset look different on a RAW file versus an exported TIFF?

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When I apply many Lightroom presets directly to my Canon RAW (.CR2) files, the result often looks worse than the preset examples. But if I first make basic corrections to the RAW file—such as exposure, white balance, shadows, whites, and contrast—then export to TIFF and apply the preset, the look is often much closer to what the preset creator advertised.

Is this expected behavior? Why would the same preset appear to work differently on a RAW file than on a TIFF exported from that RAW file?

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A lot has to do with how the "presets" are written and at what stage in the imaging processing pipeline they act upon the image. There can be a wide variation from one "preset" to the next. "Presets" are merely someone else's list of settings applied in a certain order determined by them when they recorded the preset.

"Presets" usually assume that the camera was set to expose for a "correct" average brightness and properly record the correct CT/WB for the lighting illuminating the scene. Most raw convertors by default set the initial exposure/brightness and CT/WB based on the CT/WB correction settings active in camera at the time the image was captured. Most other in camera settings are not necessarily duplicated by a third party raw conversion applications, but exposure and basic CT/WB usually are.

The presets then usually adjust things like exposure, contrast and/or response curves, color biases, etc. If they include an instruction to use "Auto WB" or to use a specific amount of exposure/brightness compensation, then any adjustments you have already made to the raw file are erased and overwritten by the preset. The color and contrast effects of the preset are mixed with whatever color cast and exposure biases the image already had when initially rendered by Lightroom before you made your adjustments.

If you first adjust things manually and then export as TIFF, those changes are "baked in" to the image and the preset acts upon the result of those adjustments, rather than erasing them and starting over. Again, depending on how the preset is written, some of the steps may not be applied to a TIFF in the same way they are applied to a raw file, because the TIFF doesn't have all of the information contained in the raw file.

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Yes, this is normal. A preset is just a saved set of editing instructions, and the result depends heavily on the stage of the image-processing pipeline where those instructions are applied.

RAW files are not finished images. They still need interpretation for exposure, white balance/color temperature, tone, and contrast. Presets often assume the image already has a reasonably correct baseline exposure and white balance. If your RAW file starts from a different baseline, the preset can look very different.

By the time you export a TIFF, the RAW has already been rendered with your chosen corrections. Applying the preset to that TIFF means the preset is acting on a more neutral, standardized starting point, so it may match the creator’s example more closely.

Also, presets vary a lot. They are simply someone else’s recorded settings, and different presets are designed with different assumptions about the source image.

So the key difference is not Canon CR2 versus TIFF by itself, but that the TIFF is a processed version of the RAW with exposure and white balance already established.

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