Which lens for stronger background blur and quiet autofocus on a Canon M200 for streaming?

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I use a Canon M200 for video streaming and want a stronger blurred-background look while keeping autofocus quiet. The kit lens focuses silently, but I’m not getting enough background blur.

My setup is:

  • camera to subject: about 85 cm
  • subject to background: about 165 cm

I’m confused about which focal length and aperture would work best for a head-and-shoulders shot on this APS-C camera. I’ve looked at some faster lenses, but I’m concerned that some have noisy autofocus for streaming/video use.

What focal length/aperture should I look for to get better bokeh in this setup, and how does my shooting distance affect the choice?

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More blur == larger aperture, if other factors remain fixed.

From 85cm you'll need a 35mm lens to get head & shoulders in shot, possibly a 50mm if you can drop the camera back a way.
You can get a f/1.8 for a reasonable price or a f/1.4 for a lot more. $£€100 1.8 to $£€ 500 for a 1.4.

The shorter your lens, the larger aperture you will need to blur the background.

Examples… (ignore the quality, these were lit by the computer screen & one room light & the ISO ramped up to max - not exactly ideal lighting)
Bear at 85cm, centre of flowers test print on wall another 165cm

50mm 1.4

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35mm 1.8

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This is on an APC-C with a 1.5 crop, the Canon is a 1.6 crop so your framing would be tighter.

Personally, I'd always go for the 50 & try to gain some distance rather than the 35 which can get a bit 'pointy' for me - big nose, little ears.

If you don't want to hear the autofocus motor, don't use the built-in mic.
Pulling focus to follow a talking head at 65cm on either a 35 or 50 is going to be pretty distracting. You will probably have to choose between razor-thin DoF & not making your audience dizzy by sacrificing some of your blur.

Late edit
Another idea, if you want to "outcool the other kidz" is a fake anamorphic lens (or a real one if you can afford it, but they're expensive ;)
This is a 52mm lens (a Helios 44M) I got from a Russian lens mod company, for $55 USD. It has a 'fake' iris inside which gives the impression of an anamorphic effect on bokeh. It is totally manual, so no more follow-focus issues to worry about. Look at the light I put in the scene, which is a single LED point-light. It gives it a vertical oval shaped bokeh, characteristic of anamorphic lenses. It's actually only an f/2, but it feels much wider because of the distortion in the out of focus areas. Crop to a more movie-style 16:9 or even tighter & there's your fake cool lens effect…

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For more background blur, the key is a wider aperture: lower f-number = more blur, assuming framing and distances stay similar.

At about 85 cm on an APS-C Canon, a 35mm lens is likely the practical choice for a head-and-shoulders framing. A 50mm can blur the background more, but it will frame much tighter at that distance, so you’d usually need to move the camera farther back.

A fast prime such as:

  • 35mm f/1.8 for easier framing at your current distance
  • 50mm f/1.8 if you can increase camera-to-subject distance

In general, shorter focal lengths need a wider aperture to give the same background blur as longer focal lengths.

So if your setup distance is fixed, look for a fast 35mm prime. If you can move the camera back, a 50mm prime is a strong option for a blurrier background. Quiet autofocus matters for streaming, so check whether the specific lens uses a quiet/stepping motor, since some fast lenses can be noisier than your kit lens.

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