What’s the difference between a long lens and a telephoto design?
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I’m trying to understand the distinction between a conventional long-focus lens and a telephoto lens design. I’ve read that a telephoto lens is physically shorter than its focal length, while some older long lenses are much longer in physical size.
What makes a telephoto design different optically? Is it mainly that a telephoto uses extra lens elements or a negative rear group to achieve a longer effective focal length in a shorter barrel?
Are there practical advantages or disadvantages to a conventional long lens versus a telephoto design, such as simpler construction, lower cost, or fewer optical compromises?
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The advantage of a non-tele long lens is exactly as you say: fewer elements. I have a 400 mm M42 lens that has only three elements: the achromat doublet at the end of the tube, and the simple meniscus behind the aperture. A 400 "tele" would be much shorter, but it would have additional elements to change the effective focal length of a much shorter-focus objective set. For instance, there might be a four-element Tessar type, with independent focal length as short as about 200 mm, with aperture in the middle, and a three-element achromatic negative group near the mounting flange, to make a "400 mm" telephoto that's only about 240 mm from film/sensor to aperture.
Along with fewer air-glass surfaces, simpler lenses are also much less expensive to produce to high quality -- my 400mm triplet has only three pieces of glass, and no glass-to-glass cemented joins, while a tele-Tessar has seven elements, and three glass-to-glass cement joints (assuming the focal extender elements are a cemented triplet, as is often the case with quality ones).
The other side of this is that "simpler" long lenses are often seen and treated as "bargain" optics, so they don't always receive the level of quality control you might get in a lens that will be offered at a higher price (perhaps because it's shorter and easier to handle). And even though lighter in actual weight (due to much less glass), they may feel heavier because all the glass is as far from the camera body as it can get.
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A conventional long-focus lens has a physical length roughly in line with its focal length. A telephoto lens is a specific optical design that achieves a long effective focal length while being physically shorter than that focal length.
The usual way this is done is with a positive front objective group plus a negative rear group. That rear negative group acts much like a built-in teleconverter: it increases the effective focal length and narrows the field of view without requiring the lens barrel to be as long as a simple long-focus design.
So yes, telephoto designs generally use more optical elements and more complex construction. A conventional long lens can often be simpler, with fewer elements, fewer air-glass surfaces, and potentially lower manufacturing cost.
The tradeoff is size versus complexity. A non-tele long lens may be longer and less convenient, but simpler. A telephoto lens is more compact for a given focal length, but the extra elements and stronger light bending can increase design complexity and the chance of optical compromises if not well corrected.
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