Should I save JPEG/TIFF files in Adobe RGB or use sRGB for web viewing?
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I’m confused about color spaces for exported images. Since modern displays are no longer limited to 256 colors, is there any reason not to save JPEG or TIFF files in Adobe RGB instead of sRGB? For example, if I’m posting JPEGs online or just viewing them on a PC, wouldn’t Adobe RGB be better, especially if cheaper monitors or systems just convert it anyway? Also, is there any reason not to use CIELAB/Lab for TIFF files?
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So stick with sRGB, it is the STANDARD for web content.
I fail to see any reasons to not use Adobe RGB when it comes to JPEG files whatever you are posting them on web sites or simply looking at them in your PC...
The REASON is as stated: sRGB is the DEFAULT STANDARD for all web content, not AdobeRGB. Don't use AdobeRGB for web content.
Yes, it is true that CSS4 will have multiple colorspaces "available" but sRGB is still the default standard, and non-color managed apps on most computers and devices will still perform best with sRGB.
Best practices is to have everything look right in sRGB, and if you have those rare images that might benefit from a larger space, then detect if the browser/user space can use it and then use the alternate larger space.
NO....because after all Adobe RGB is converted to sRGB in cheap monitors right?
Unless you are using color management (AND your AdobeRGB image is properly tagged), AdobeRGB is NOT converted to sRGB, so colors will end up looking DULL, as in this example:
THINK SMALL
Remember that a larger colorspace does NOT mean "more colors" - a larger colorspace means the colors are farther apart. If you don't have enough bits, then your delta E errors can become visible artifacts. If you are using 8bit TIFFs, you will not see a benefit from using AdobeRGB if you are not clipping any colors (see CLIPPING below).
On the other hand, if you want to accentuate saturation, and print to a high quality color printer, then AdobeRGB or possibly ProPhoto might be better, but you ALSO want to be in 16 bit, especially for ProPhoto. (as a rule, never use ProPhoto with anything less than 10 bits).
The "number" of colors available to an image is defined by the bit depth. An 8 bit-per-color-channel (bpc) image is 8x8x8:
- An 8bpc image can encode a maximum of 16,777,216 colors.
- A 10bpc image can encode 1,073,741,824
- A 12bpc image can encode 68,719,476,736
- A 16bpc image can encode 281,474,976,710,6561,2
While 16,777,216 may seem like a lot, also remember that an 8 bit image can only show 256 levels of greyscale which is far short of what the human eye can perceive. In fact, if the image were encoded linearly, 8bpc would be far from enough and visible banding artifacts would be plainly visible — the use of gamma encoding prevents this by weighting data toward darker values to exploit the non-linear nature of human vision.
To be honest, P3 and AdobeRGB are in some ways too big of a color space for an 8-bit container even if using a gamma TRC. If your images are not at least 10 bit, best practice is to stick to the color space that works best for 8 bit: sRGB. And never use ProPhoto or the other super-large spaces with 8 bit!
CLIPPING
If in sRGB, your image can be rendered with the saturation & lightness you like and there is no clipping then you will not derive any benefit from a larger color space such as AdobeRGB.
If in sRGB You Find
Your Colors Are Not Clipping,
Then the sRGB Space Is
What You Should Be Shipping
FOOTNOTES:
1: A Dough Bee Photoshop "16 bit" mode is actually 15 bits, for 1,099,511,627,776 — be aware that if you open a 16bpc image from another app, APS will truncate it to 15 bit.
2: 16bit half-float EXRs have 1024 levels per stop, with 18½ stops above 18% and 11½ stops below using the normalized values for 28,991,029,248,000 (plus an additional 10 stops at lower precision).
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Yes—there are good reasons to use sRGB for JPEGs intended for web or general viewing. sRGB is still the default standard for web content and for many non-color-managed apps and devices. If you post Adobe RGB JPEGs, they may display incorrectly when the app or browser ignores the embedded profile, often causing dull or wrong colors.
Adobe RGB is not simply “converted by the monitor.” Monitors usually just display the RGB values they receive; any proper color conversion must happen earlier in the color-managed software/OS/GPU pipeline. If that chain doesn’t handle profiles correctly, Adobe RGB images can look wrong.
Also, Adobe RGB contains colors outside sRGB, so conversion is not always straightforward and can vary depending on the rendering intent and software.
Practical rule: use sRGB for web delivery and general compatibility. Use wider-gamut spaces only when you control the workflow and know the viewer/software supports color management.
For TIFF, Lab/CIELAB can be useful in specialized editing workflows, but it is not a general-purpose choice for ordinary sharing or viewing. For widest compatibility, stick to standard RGB workflows unless you specifically need Lab.
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