Should I expect a used large-format leaf shutter to need service?
Asked 9/14/2021
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I bought my first large-format lens, a Fuji 180mm in a Copal No. 1 shutter. The lens is fine, but at the slower shutter speeds (about 1/8 to 1 second) the timing mechanism sounds like it may be dragging or seizing. From what I’ve read, older leaf shutters often need maintenance, but I’m unsure what is normal when buying used. Is it reasonable to expect a used large-format shutter to need a CLA/service unless it was recently serviced, or should a replacement used shutter typically work correctly right away? Also, is some noise at slow speeds normal for this type of shutter?
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Short answer, yes, this issue is expected.
That Copal No. 1 is probably between thirty and sixty years old, and in professional service would have been expected to receive a CLA (Clean, Lube, Adjust) service every two to five years. Amateurs like us don't use a shutter anything like as much as a commercial photographer would have done before the digital era, but time can also cause oxidation of lubricants, even surface oxidation of metal parts, so I'd still suggest having a shutter serviced after purchasing unless the seller offers it as "just serviced" or similar, and all function is 100%.
That said, I have a couple old dial-set Compur shutters that are more than 90 years old, and all they needed after I got them was a simple cleaning, a couple micro-drops of light machine oil, and closed back up. Having this done by a professional will cost close to what you paid for the lens and shutter together, but it's also something that an amateur can DIY if you're reasonably handy and confident in working with small parts. Manuals are available to download, with some searching, tool sets are reasonably priced, and there's nothing magical inside the case -- and I have no direct experience with Copals, but most large format shutters avoided "jack in the box" springs; nothing is likely to jump across the room as soon as the last thread on a tiny screw disengages.
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Yes—when buying older large-format shutters, it’s normal to assume some may need service unless the seller states they were recently serviced and all functions are confirmed working. Copal and similar leaf shutters are often decades old, and even with light use, lubricants can dry or oxidize over time. A CLA (clean, lube, adjust) is common maintenance.
That said, a properly working used shutter should still operate correctly when sold by a reputable seller. Good sellers usually test gear and describe condition accurately, so obvious faults should not be expected if it was advertised as fully working.
Also, some sound at slow speeds is normal. Leaf shutters use a slow-speed escapement, and a hissing or clockwork-like noise between about 1 second and 1/8 second can be part of normal operation. The key question is whether the speeds are actually hanging, inconsistent, or visibly sticking—not just making noise.
So: expect age-related service needs as a possibility, but not as something every used shutter must immediately require. If it was sold as working and the slow speeds are truly seizing rather than just sounding like a normal escapement, service or return would be reasonable.
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