Is 10× live view manual focus more accurate than phase-detect autofocus for landscapes?

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For tripod-mounted landscape shots, I often focus this way: switch the lens to manual focus, enter live view, magnify the image to about 10×, and adjust focus by hand. Is this method actually more accurate than normal phase-detect autofocus under good conditions, or just slower? Since autofocus performance depends on the camera, lens, subject contrast, and light, I’m wondering whether live view focusing is generally the better choice for critical landscape work, and whether I should use it whenever possible.

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Yes, manual focusing is more accurate than phase detect AF (except for the combination of very recent Canon camera + lens). Over at LensRentals blog Roger performed AF tests back in July / August 2012. For almost any combination of camera and lens, manual focus can (given enough time) be better than phase detect AF. Read the whole blog series if you want to figure out why some Canon cameras with some Canon lenses perform equally good with phase detect AF as manual focus.

I even have graphs to back me up on this one. First a small excerpt of the blog post to explain the graph.

Then we took eight repeated shots using LiveView and manual focus (represented by red squares), spinning the focus ring between each shot to either infinity or absolute close up. The red squares demonstrate Roger Units (how well Roger can manually focus given all the time in the world on a tripod with a perfect test target.)

Finally we did the same thing but let the camera autofocus in LiveView (represented by green triangles), resulting in contrast-detection autofocus. In theory this should be as accurate as Roger is, perhaps more so.

The graph below shows the results of those shots. For those of you who are not familiar with our Imatest graphs, the numbers reflect the sharpness of the image in Line Pairs / Image Height. The sharpness in the center is shown on the X-axis and average sharpness on the Y. Higher is better and, in this test, better focus equals higher sharpness.

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Now let’s throw away the repeated shot results from above since we’ve made that point, and replace them with standard (phase-detection) autofocus shots. These are taken in exactly the same way as the live view AF shots: take the image, spin the focus ring to one extreme, let the camera refocus, save the image.

Graph that shows the inaccuracy of phase detect AF, compared to manual focus and contrast AF

It's quite clear from the graph that phase detect AF is not as good as manual, and that the performance varies a lot more. You might be lucky and get good focus with phase detect AF, but far from always.

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Often yes: magnified live view manual focus can be more accurate for critical static subjects like landscapes, because it uses the actual imaging sensor. That avoids front/back-focus and calibration issues that can affect phase-detect AF, which relies on a separate AF sensor and may stop when focus is merely “good enough.”

Phase-detect AF can still be very good, and on some newer camera/lens combinations it may be comparable. But in general, if you have time and the subject is not moving, live view at high magnification gives you the best chance of exact focus.

Caveats: live view display quality depends on the camera. Some cameras subsample or interpolate the live view image, which can make precise manual focusing harder. Even so, using the sensor image directly is usually an advantage for accuracy.

So for tripod-based landscape photography, live view focusing is a strong choice when maximum precision matters. It’s not mandatory for every shot, but it is often the preferred method when speed is unimportant and you want the most reliable focus.

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