How can I meaningfully compare two prime lenses with different focal lengths?
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I’m using a Sony NEX-5R with two primes: a Sigma 19mm f/2.8 and a Sony 35mm f/1.8. I want a practical, real-world way to compare them for the kinds of photos I actually take, especially landscapes and low light. I’m not looking for MTF charts, lab tests, or generic reviews.
Because the lenses have very different fields of view, I’m not sure what counts as a fair comparison. Cropping the wider lens to match the tighter one seems misleading, and moving closer or farther changes perspective, so that also doesn’t seem equivalent.
What’s the best way to compare two primes of different focal lengths in a subjective but useful way? Which characteristics can be compared directly, and which ones are inherently tied to focal length?
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I'm not sure this will be the answer you're looking for, but I'll give it a shot. I won't mention focal length anywhere, either, as you don't want to base any comparison on that. Forgive me if I slip up.
Short answerIf you want to compare lenses qualitatively/subjectively, you need to test them shooting the scenes you intend them for. Compare your results and make a subjective decision.
If you can't do that, you should use the 'numbers' with the context (your preferred scenes) to make a judgement on which lenses will most likely give you the results you desire. A simple rule I use, objective + context = subjective. The objective numbers vary from lens to lens, but the context stays the same. So the only thing impacting your subjective analysis of lenses is the context - what you prefer to shoot.
Long answerFirst, about price:
An expensive lens isn't usually expensive because it produces better photographs - an expensive lens is expensive because it is more difficult to make, more costly to make and may produces better images.
Having said that, wide aperture (or fast) lenses are more difficult to manufacture and cost more to manufacture, so they'll cost more to buy. A super-massive aperture for landscapes is not necessary at all. Usually it's necessary for 1) capturing movement in low-light conditions and/or 2) having greater control of depth-of-field.
Second, about quantitative/objective comparison:
I think the numbers and charts you don't want are necessary to make some judgement about lenses you want to buy without ever having the chance to use them. If you have the opportunity to test competing lenses, you can undertake the same comparison as you had with your compact (as linked). If you don't have this luxury, you'd need to make a comparison based on numbers.
The numbers are often associated with qualitative outcomes in your photographs - the stuff you want to make some prediction about, so with some experience you can begin to understand what these numbers tell you for various scenes (such as landscapes or low-light, or both).
My favourite spot for objective numbers to help me decide on new lens purchase is http://www.dxomark.com - this site lets you compare tested lenses on the body you're using. The body is less relevant, though, because you can make the same objective comparison between lenses on any body, as long as it's the same for all lenses.
The numbers are objective, but the numbers + context = subjective (what you're looking for). The context in this case is 'low-light' or 'landscape' or both. It's like me saying "that's shit" or "that's the shit!" - one is negative, one is positive. The word is the same, and we all know that, but the context gives it different meaning.
The things I look at are mainly sharpness and distortion. Sharpness because that can vary with aperture - some lenses are sharper at wider apertures, whilst some are sharper at medium-narrow apertures. Distortion because you may or may not want images to be warped or bent out of shape around the edges - and that depends on what you're shooting. Most distortion can be corrected in post-processing, though.
I don't worry too much about chromatic aberration (CA) because DxO measure Laterial CA which can be fixed relatively easily in post-processing. I also don't look a great deal at vignetting for the same reason. DxO do not test for Longitudinal CA as far as I can tell.
I'll add that reading lens reviews can reveal a lot, particularly when you decision is context-driven. For instance, I have a Nikon AF-S 85mm f/1.8G which, when shooting high contrast edges at a narrow aperture (1.8 to 2.8) produces images with a decent amount of Longitudinal CA (LoCA) - purple and green fringing around the edges. Had I read these reviews before I bought the lens, I would have known what I can and can't use this lens for. When I am shooting in a controlled environment and have control over the light and high-contrast edges, the lens produces superb images, as intended.
I hope this helps.
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You generally should not try to make two very different focal lengths produce the “same” picture. Cropping or changing camera position changes the comparison: cropping throws away image area, and moving changes perspective and spatial relationships.
The most useful approach is to compare them by shooting the kinds of scenes you actually care about and then judging the results. In other words: lots of real photos, under the conditions you expect to use each lens for.
For direct comparison, focus on characteristics less tied to focal length, such as:
- build quality
- distortion
- vignetting
- edge sharpness
- how each lens performs wide open vs stopped down
Testing the widest and smallest apertures is especially useful, since weaknesses tend to show more there.
Also, part of the price difference is expected: an f/1.8 lens is generally harder and more expensive to design than an f/2.8 lens while maintaining good image quality.
So the answer is not to force an apples-to-apples framing match, but to evaluate each lens in its intended role and decide which rendering and usability you prefer for your photography.
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