Can you use DOF adapters or focal reducers for still photography on smaller sensors?

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I know video shooters have long used 35mm DOF adapters: a larger-format lens projects an image onto ground glass, and a small-sensor camera re-photographs that image to get shallower depth of field. I’m wondering whether a similar idea is practical for still photography.

Specifically, could you use a large-format or medium-format camera and then photograph its ground glass with a DSLR or mirrorless camera plus a macro lens? The appeal would be the very shallow depth of field and, with large format, the possibility of using camera movements.

Alternatively, is there an optical-only solution without ground glass, such as a focal reducer/telecompressor, to adapt larger-format lenses to a smaller sensor while preserving the larger format’s field of view and depth-of-field look?

Has anyone successfully done this for stills, and what are the main limitations?

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The "telecompressor" you mentioned is a focal reducer, a device that concentrates the image in order to project it onto a smaller sensor.

This approach reduces the backfocus distance (the distance from the back of the lens to the sensor). So it only works on mirrorless cameras using lenses designed for DSLRs (which have sufficient backfocus distance to make room for the adaptor).

They do exist though, Metabones were first to market with this type of adapter for mirrorless cameras (though they've existed for telescopes for years). The focal reducer maintains the depth of field you get with the larger system, i.e. you can get the "full frame" DOF and bokeh using an APS-C sensor.


It would be possible to design a focal reducer, or ground glass based approach like the one you describe for larger formats. No-one to my knowledge has bothered trying to do this, however. The reason for this is that contrary to popular opinion medium and large format systems don't really offer shallower depth of field compared to 35mm.

Technically a larger format gives shallower depth of field for the same f-stop, but that's exactly where the problem lies, you can't get lenses with the same f-stop for larger formats.

Medium format lenses are typically f/2.8 or slower, large format lenses tend to be for like f/5.6 or f/8. When you work out the depth of field equivalences they end up about equal, or more commonly worse than their 35mm format equivalents.

Sure there are a few exceptions, such as the large format 150mm f/2.8 Schneider Xenotar (which you can't afford), or the 178mm f/2.5 Kodak Aero Ektar (which is radioactive) but on the whole there would be very little to be gained by the time you've taken the losses of the adapter / ground glass into account. Lenses on the speedbooster show quite minimal loss of sharpness, however that's only a 0.71x, for large format you'd need a 0.28x!)

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Yes—both approaches are possible in still photography, but they work differently.

A ground-glass setup is essentially a DIY DOF adapter. A large-format camera is already most of the way there: you can photograph its focusing screen with a smaller digital camera and a macro lens. This can give you the larger format’s shallow-DOF rendering and movements, but with clear tradeoffs: light loss, loss of autofocus, added complexity, and some image-quality degradation. Ground-glass texture can also be an issue unless it’s moved or optimized.

The optical-only version is a focal reducer (telecompressor). It concentrates a larger image circle onto a smaller sensor, preserving the larger system’s field of view and corresponding depth-of-field look more effectively than a ground-glass relay. In practice, focal reducers require enough flange/back-focus distance, so they are typically used on mirrorless cameras with lenses designed for longer-register systems.

So: yes, you can do this for stills. Ground-glass relays are feasible but cumbersome and lossy; focal reducers are cleaner when a suitable optical adapter can be made or bought.

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