Can Lightroom preserve custom collection order when exporting or publishing incremental album updates?

Asked 1/9/2015

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I use Lightroom 4.4 and often create albums/collections with a custom sort order to tell a story. The same source photo may appear in multiple albums with different edits or crops, and I want to avoid duplicating source files.

My ideal workflow is:

  • publish/export to a folder
  • preserve each collection’s custom order via filenames
  • allow the same photo to appear in multiple albums with different treatments
  • keep a single source library
  • update albums later after Lightroom edits
  • avoid re-exporting an entire album when only a few images changed

Exporting a collection with a sequence number in the filename works for a full export, but Lightroom doesn’t track changes the way I need for incremental updates, especially if I reorder images.

Is there an efficient way to make custom sort order persistent so exported filenames reflect that order and only changed/new images need to be republished?

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Photography Stack Exchange contributor

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You need a way to get a sequence number into a metadata field you can put in front of your filename on export.

So the sequence number is persistent rather than generated at output.

And you need enough spare fields that you can have a sequence number for every collection.

You might need to temporarily rename the files to initially generate this sequence number. (Rename files with a prepended sequence number, grab that number to metadata, re-rename back to the original.)

And you might need to use custom metadata fields (that you can't prepend to filenames), copying them to one of the few fields you can use as needed.

This requires metadata wrangling that Lightroom doesn't support internally, but there are a bunch of metadata plug-ins out there, I suspect somebody has something that can be tortured into working.

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Not cleanly within Lightroom alone. The workable approach is to store each collection’s sequence/order number in metadata, so the order becomes persistent instead of being generated only at export time.

Then you can use that stored value as part of the exported filename, which helps preserve album order across devices and services that sort by filename.

Caveats:

  • Lightroom doesn’t natively manage this workflow well.
  • You may need metadata plug-ins or external metadata tools.
  • Because a photo can appear in multiple collections with different orders, you need separate metadata fields for each collection/order you want to preserve.
  • Initial setup may require temporary renaming or copying sequence numbers into metadata fields Lightroom can use during export.

So: yes, it’s possible in principle, but it requires metadata wrangling and likely plug-ins; Lightroom’s built-in export/publish tools don’t provide a simple, efficient solution for persistent custom ordering plus incremental republishing.

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