Can I get the same 85mm full-frame look on DX by stepping back with an 85mm lens?
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If I use an 85mm FX lens on a DX camera, can I recreate the same look as an 85mm lens on an FX/full-frame camera? I understand that from the same shooting position, the DX camera gives a tighter field of view. If I step back to match the framing, will the result look the same as the FX shot, or will perspective, background rendering, and depth of field change? For portraits or full-body shots, is moving back enough, or do I need a shorter lens on DX to truly match the 85mm-on-FX look?
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No. You can only get the same look by standing in the same place. Otherwise, perspective will be altered. Nothing you can do with the lens (or camera) can get around that.
On a DX format camera, to get an "85mm look" — the look of an 85mm lens on a "full frame" 35mm-format camera, or FX in Nikon terms — you need a lens that's 1.5× shorter to match field of view, and also approximately with an aperture 1.5× faster to get the same approximate depth of field.
You can also use the "Brenizer method" of panoramic stitching to simulate a wider and faster lens than you have, but you'll still have to stand in the same place to get the same look.
So:
I know a 58mm FX lens (87mm DX equiv), shot from the exact same distance with a DX camera, will look almost identical and yield a very close perspective background.
Yeah.
But is the only other way to get the same "85mm look" on a DX camera, with an 85mm FX lens, to simply move backwards?
Nope. This will give you something like a "135mm look" (give or take), because that's what you'd use on FX to get the same framing from that spot.
Take a look at some of the graphics in the answers to What does it really mean that telephoto lenses "flatten" scenes? — I think they'll really help.
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No—stepping back with the same 85mm lens on DX will match framing, but it will not give the same overall look as 85mm on FX.
The key point is that perspective is determined by camera position, not sensor size or lens format. If you move backward, perspective changes: subject-to-background relationships and facial proportions will differ from the FX shot taken closer.
To match the full-frame 85mm look on DX, you need to stay in the same place and use a shorter lens—about 58mm on Nikon DX (1.5× crop) to match the field of view. If you also want similar depth of field, you generally need about a 1.5× wider aperture as well.
So:
- Same position + 58mm on DX ≈ similar framing/perspective to 85mm on FX
- 85mm on DX + step back = similar framing only, not the same perspective/look
For many photos the difference may be acceptable, but for portraits it can matter a lot. If needed, panoramic stitching (Brenizer method) can sometimes simulate a wider, shallower look, but you still must keep the same camera position to preserve perspective.
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