Can a Canon 750D trigger a Yongnuo YN-560 IV off-camera without a separate trigger?

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I have a Canon 750D and recently ordered a Yongnuo YN-560 IV flash. I do not have a separate flash trigger yet and want to know whether the camera can trigger the flash off-camera.

Can the 750D trigger the YN-560 IV using the built-in pop-up flash? If so, does the pop-up flash always need to be raised and firing? Which slave mode should I use on the YN-560 IV? Also, is there any practical difference between using the pop-up flash as a trigger and using a dedicated external trigger, especially if I use an umbrella or other modifier that may block line of sight?

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The only way to use a 750D to trigger an off-camera YN-560 IV without adding any other hardware is to use the pop-up flash to trigger the YN-560 IV in "dumb" slave mode.

The YN-560 IV has a built in radio receiver compatible with the YN560/RF605/RF603 communication protocol. Your camera has no built-in radio transmitter (none of Canon's current cameras do), much less one compatible with YN560/RF/605/RF603.

Your camera's built-in pop-up flash can communicate wirelessly with off-camera flashes that are capable of receiving optical wireless signals using the Canon optical TTL protocol. The YN-560 IV has no such 'TTL' receiver, optical or radio.

The YN-560 IV does have the ability to "fire" when it detects a bright flash of light. 'S1' mode is the basic optical slave that fires as soon as it senses another flash. 'S2' mode is the optical slave mode that (hopefully) ignores the TTL pre-flash and fires on the second main flash. Both of these modes will require your camera's pop-up flash to fire while the camera's shutter is open. Use straight 'manual flash' for the camera's pop-up flash for S1 mode. If you want to use the pop-up flash in TTL mode, you can try S2 mode, but that tends to be more problematic than S1 mode.

If you want to use the pop-up flash to fire a communication signal to an off-camera flash before the shutter opens but not fire a flash while the shutter is open, you should have considered the YN568EX II or similar flash that is optical TTL capable. The YN685 adds a built-in Yongnuo 622 radio receiver that allows full TTL control via a YN622 transmitter but removes the optical TTL receiver. The YN622 protocol is different from the YN560/RF605/RF603 protocol. Some YN622 devices made since 2014 can be set to receive YN560/RF/605/RF603 commands in manual only mode, but YN622 devices can not control YN560/RF605/RF603 devices.

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Yes, but only as a simple optical trigger.

The Canon 750D does not have a built-in radio transmitter for the YN-560 IV, and the YN-560 IV does not support Canon’s optical TTL wireless system. So the only no-extra-hardware option is to use the pop-up flash to trigger the YN-560 IV in its optical slave mode.

Use:

  • S1 if the pop-up flash is firing in manual mode
  • S2 if the pop-up flash is in TTL, so the YN-560 IV ignores the pre-flash

Yes, the pop-up flash must be up and emitting light for this to work.

Compared with a dedicated radio trigger, optical slave triggering is less flexible because it depends on the flash sensor seeing the triggering flash. Umbrellas, modifiers, placement, and bright ambient light can reduce reliability. A radio trigger is generally more dependable and does not require line of sight.

So: it will work, but only as basic manual optical triggering, not full Canon wireless flash control.

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