Will a flash from one camera brand work on a different camera brand?
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I have a flash made for one camera brand and want to use it on a camera from another brand. What determines whether it will work? In particular, will it just fire manually, or can I expect TTL, high-speed sync, zoom control, exposure compensation, or other advanced flash functions to work?
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Well, if the camera hotshoe and the flash are both ISO-compliant, you can use one system's flash on another's hotshoe, and the flash will fire in sync with the exposure being made. But that's the only function you will have. No TTL, no high-speed sync (FP), no menu commanding of the flash, no flash exposure compensation, no wake-up from sleep, possibly no 2nd curtain, no matching the zoom to the lens's focal length—anything that requires communication between the flash and the camera body other than the "fire!" signal won't be communicated.
If you look at the camera's hotshoe and the flash's foot, you'll see why.
Nearly every camera manufacturer follows the ISO standard for flash hotshoes (from 1985–2012 Sony didn't, using the old Minolta iISO hotshoe, but as of the NEX6, they've moved to the ISO-compliant (sorta) multi-interface hotshoe). The ISO standards for flash feet and camera hotshoes give the physical dimensions of the foot and shoe, and specify that the rails on the shoe are ground, and that the contact in the center of the "square" of the foot/shoe is the sync signal.
(Footnote for Canon T7/SL3/T100 users, see this fstoppers article about the missing sync connector on those models, and the Canon EOS 4000D Hot Shoe for Sync (with Studio Flashes) Q&A, but be aware there are also reports that newer copies of the T7 have it reinstated.)
Everything else is proprietary. For example, Canon and Nikon have their non-sync contacts/pins placed in different areas, so if the flash is seated correctly on the hotshoe, there is no electrical contact and no communication.
However. The four-thirds, micro four-thirds, Fuji X, and Canon hotshoe contacts all use identical placement (although not necessarily the same number of pins), so if you mix brands among these three, there is the possibility of cross-talk. And since every brand uses a completely different signaling protocol, there could be some errors and possible damage (although the risk is small), so if you're very paranoid, taping over contacts or removing pins might be advisable. I pulled the TTL pins (completely reversible) on a Nikon SB-26 to use it on my Canon hotshoes.
On the upside, however, this similar placement also means you can use Canon TTL cables for MFT and Fuji as well (i.e., you can connect an MFT flash to an MFT camera and a Fuji flash to a Fuji camera with a Canon TTL cable and have full function with TTL and high-speed sync); but this only works with passive cables simply doing signal pass-through.
It does not work with TTL-capable radio triggers which may do some form of signal manipulation. And, newer versions of the MFT and Fuji X hotshoes now supply power to accessory flashes with an additional contact the Canon hotshoe doesn't have or use in that way, so Canon TTL cables will not work with those flashes (such as the Fuji EF-X8), as they have no other power source.
While Nikon and Pentax have separate pin arrangements, oddly, the wake-up signal is identical both contact-placement and electronic signal-wise so something like a for-Nikon Yongnuo RF-603II can actually wake up Pentax flashes, but again, there's no TTL/HSS cross-brand with Nikon gear on Pentax.
Sync voltages, if you are using digital-era flash models, should not be an issue. All the digital-era flashes tend to have sync voltages of <10V, and most Canon/Nikon hotshoes have a limit of 250V, while mirrorless cameras are guesstimated to have limits around 20V. The 6V limit you often seen in web references are for the first generation of Canon dSLRs. If you have a Canon camera model that was made after the original dRebel (300D), the limit is 250V.
If you really need cross-brand TTL/HSS compatibility with legacy flashes, you may want to consider the Cactus's X-TTL triggering system. But as of 2021, they've gotten out of the photography gear business and no longer offer support.
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Usually, yes—but only at the most basic level.
If the camera and flash both use a standard ISO hot shoe and the flash physically fits, the center contact can usually trigger the flash, so basic manual firing should work. That means you can often use a flash from one brand on another brand’s camera as a simple manual flash.
What usually will not work across brands are the advanced features that require two-way communication through the extra contacts in the shoe. These commonly include TTL metering, high-speed sync, flash exposure compensation, menu control, wake-from-sleep, second-curtain sync, and automatic zoom matching.
Why? The center pin is generally standardized, but the additional contacts and communication protocols are brand-specific.
Important exceptions:
- Some cameras use a non-standard shoe, so the flash may not fit at all.
- Many third-party flashes are sold in brand-dedicated versions, so you must choose the version made for your camera system if you want TTL and other dedicated features.
- Fully manual flashes are often the most cross-compatible.
So: check physical shoe compatibility first, then determine whether you only need manual sync or also need brand-specific TTL features.
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