How can I trigger a Canon-compatible Insignia flash and a Yongnuo YN560 III together off-camera?
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I’m new to studio flash and currently have two Canon-compatible speedlights: an Insignia TTL external flash and a Yongnuo YN560 III. I’ve only been using the Yongnuo with an umbrella so far, but I’d like to use both flashes together off-camera.
What type of wireless triggering setup do I need? Can one trigger fire both flashes even though they’re different brands, or do I need separate solutions? I’m mainly trying to understand the simplest way to get both lights firing reliably.
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Built-in Optical Triggers
If you're shooting in studio conditions, you could use the S1/S2 optical slave modes built into both of your flashes and your pop-up flash (if you have one) as the master trigger. This will have a more limited range and require line-of-sight between the master and slaves, and be less reliable outside in bright sunshine without bounce surfaces around. But it should work. In S1 mode, your pop-up flash must be in M mode (no preflash), and in S2, your pop-up flash must be in eTTL with Canon's wireless function turned off (single pre-flash). Canon's optical wireless system is a different triggering system that uses multiple preflashes; S2 mode can only ignore a single preflash.
Adding Radio Triggers
If you need reliability outside in bright sunlight or need to ditch line-of-sight requirements, then radio triggers will work. But, of course, you won't have remote power control/TTL/HSS with your Insignia, if you get manual triggers, and if you get TTL triggers, you won't have remote control/TTL/HSS over the YN-560III. (For definitions of TTL, HSS, etc., see What features should one look for when selecting a flash?)
Your dilemma: Manual vs. TTL triggers
Yongnuo makes both manual and TTL triggers, but they do not interoperate with each other. You could get a YN-560-TX transmitter which can remote power/zoom/group control your YN-560III through its built-in receiver. Then you could add on an RF-605 to your Insignia flash, and be able to turn its group on/off and fire it remotely, but you won't have power or zoom control.
You could also get a YN-622-TX transmitter, and add YN-622C transceivers to both flashes. You'd have TTL, HSS (if the Insignia can perform this--it may not be able to), and remote power/zoom control over the Insignia, but you could only remotely fire the YN-560III (it only has one pin on its foot, and that's for the fire signal. All the other pins are needed for everything else).
Last thoughts
If you can afford it, I'd actually recommend ditching both the Insignia and the Yongnuo, and consider Godox flashes, like the TT-600 (manual) and TT685 (TTL), which can both be power and HSS controlled from the Godox X1, as well as giving you TTL access to any flashes that have them. A TT-600 and X1 transmitter cost roughly the same amount as a YN-560IV/YN-660 and a YN-560-TX, and the system can let you grow your lights up to studio strobes, if you want. Yongnuo never designed their speedlights/triggers as an overall system, while Godox did.
Of course, this may all change, as the world of cheap Chinese speedlights revolves quickly. The flashhavoc blog is a good source of information on what's current.
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Yes—different brands can be triggered together, but the trigger method matters.
The simplest low-cost option is to use the built-in optical slave modes on the flashes. In a studio, this can work well if the flashes have line-of-sight to the triggering flash. Range is limited, and optical triggering is less reliable outdoors or in bright sunlight.
For optical slave use:
- S1 mode: use a manual master flash with no preflash.
- S2 mode: use a TTL master flash that emits a single preflash.
Be aware that Canon’s optical wireless TTL system uses multiple preflashes, so a simple S2 slave may not respond correctly to that system.
For radio triggering, the Yongnuo YN560-TX will work well with the YN560 III because that flash has a compatible built-in radio receiver. Your Insignia flash, however, may not support the same radio system, so it would typically need a separate compatible receiver or be used via optical slave.
So the practical choices are:
- Use optical slave triggering for both flashes in studio, or
- Use a Yongnuo radio trigger for the YN560 III and trigger the other flash optically or with its own receiver.
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