How accurate is the 1890s group-photo scene in Hostiles, with a lens cap exposure and flash powder?
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In a scene from Hostiles set in 1892, a photographer poses a large group outdoors, has everyone hold still, removes what appears to be the lens cap, then about a second later ignites flash powder before covering the lens again. From a photographic-history perspective, what technique is this meant to depict? Was the lens cap effectively the shutter, and was the flash intended to be the main exposure or just fill light?
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uhoh
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Old magnesium flashes: see this
Probably a good bit of cinematographic license because I don't see such a flash doing a significant change in the lighting of someone several meters away on a sunny day, especially since given the shadows the sun is behind the camera.
And I wonder how the horses would react to the flash...
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What’s being portrayed is broadly plausible for late-19th-century photography, but likely dramatized.
For large cameras of that era, the lens cap could indeed serve as a simple shutter for relatively long exposures. Subjects were often told to hold still because exposures were not instantaneous by modern standards.
Flash powder (typically magnesium-based) was also historically real and burned very brightly. In an outdoor daylight group portrait, though, it probably would not be the sole exposure source. More likely, it would act as fill light to brighten shadowed faces, especially under hats, while daylight provided most of the exposure.
The movie likely understates the brightness and visual impact of the flash; real magnesium flash was intense. The staging also looks cinematic rather than ideal for an actual formal group portrait: a photographer would typically place the camera more squarely in front of the group.
So the scene is best read as: lens cap/open exposure for the plate, with a flash added during that exposure to boost the shadows. That said, the exact timing and effect were probably adjusted for dramatic effect rather than strict technical accuracy.
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