Can Lightroom and Photoshop Elements share catalog information?

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I use Photoshop Elements 10 for its simpler cataloging features like finding people and objects, but I also own Lightroom and have a library of 30,000+ photos. Can these two programs share catalog data directly, or is there a way to link them so organizational information carries over between both apps?

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I tried this with Adobe Photoshop Elements 10(Elements). I created a simple catalog in Elements then tried to open it in Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 3.4.1(Lightroom). I was unable to see the option to "Upgrade Photoshop Elements Catalog" as is suggested by Adobes help file here. I did not see that option under the File menu as it suggested.

I actually found a thread on the Adobe forums where people describe how sometimes the option shows up and sometimes it doesn't. No one appeared to have a solution to the issue, and I don't at this time either.

So next I compared the two folders of catalogs, and obviously they are completely different from that standpoint.

Adobe Photoshop Elements 10 Catalog Folder: enter image description here

Adobe Lightroom 3.4.1 Catalog Folder: enter image description here

Furthermore your main goal is really to share the catalog both ways not just as an upgrade option from Elements to Lightroom. This is not possible at this time. First of all Elements is a destructive editor(with the exception of image rotation). When you make a change to the contrast for example, you have to either write over the existing file or create a new one. You do not just save the changes to the XMP metadata, sidecar file, or catalog such as in Lightroom.

For example, when I make an edit in Elements such as red eye correction, the software automatically creates and saves a new JPG file.

A potential workaround would be to make the changes, or tags that it sounds like you want in Elements. Then select File>Write Keyword Tag and Properties Info to Photo. Then just import the new files into Lightroom. So you could tag peoples faces using the face and landmark detection tool of Elements, Elements would save these tags to the original files, and you could then use those tags in Lightroom. If you are going to do this, just be careful of the edits you make because of the destructive nature of Elements.

I think the workaround is what you are looking for. While not giving you full control both ways, it will allow you to do the tagging that Elements features and still work with the power of Lightroom.

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Probably not directly. Based on the community responses, Lightroom and Photoshop Elements use different catalog systems, and their catalog folders are not the same format. One user specifically tried opening an Elements 10 catalog in Lightroom 3.4.1 and could not reliably access Adobe’s suggested import/upgrade option.

The most likely thing you can share between the two programs is embedded image metadata, not the catalog database itself. If keywords, ratings, captions, or similar information are written to the image files or sidecar XMP files, the other program may be able to read that metadata.

So the practical answer is:

  • direct catalog sharing/linking: no reliable method shown
  • catalog import from Elements to Lightroom: may be inconsistent or unavailable depending on version
  • metadata sharing via JPG/XMP: possible for some fields

If you need both apps in your workflow, treat them as separate catalogs and use standard metadata writing/reading to transfer whatever information both programs support.

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